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Xbox 360: Towel Trick Fixes 3 Red Lights

The “Towel Trick” is an interesting solution to the 3 red lights on the ring of light (ROL). Supposedly, a user experiencing the 3 red lights on the ROL completely wrapped his Xbox 360 in a towel, with the red lights on, and let the Xbox 360 sit for about 10 minutes. He then turned his system off, then on again, and his Xbox 360 booted without issue. He was able to play for about 3 hours before the 3 red lights came back.

Sounds like an unlikely fix, but who knows? Well, I know, because I tested lastnight. The “Towel Trick” is bunk, total crap. You’re more likely to set your Xbox 360 on fire by doing this rather than fixing it. The best advice still is to contact Microsoft support. You can call them toll-free at 1-800-4MY-XBOX. They have an excellent support department lined up there for the Xbox/Xbox 360.

UPDATE: Here’s a video of the Towel Trick on YouTube.

UPDATE 7/14/2011: Rob left some good points in his comment below. A number of people in the comments on this post have suggested putting your Xbox 360 in a microwave to fix the 3 red lights issue. I would advise against this for a number of reasons.

Rob presented a number of things users should consider prior to microwaving any electronic device:

  1. 95% of all hardware failures are caused by very slight board
    warpage right under the G.P.U. where heat build up
    occurs . this will literally cause the Chips connections to pull
    away form the board.
  2. A standered refolw @ 255c will almost always get your console
    working.
  3. Specific Microwaves frequency acts on water molecules causing
    them to resonate ( absorb the energy) and then release it as heat
  4. you have a better chance of repairing using a heat gun or
    removing the xclamp and replacing it with screws and then
    force the G.P.U. only to over heat ( standered x clamp mod )
  5. Microwaves will cause metal objects to build up charges
    normally at or on sharp edges until it discharges causing sparks
    kina cool looking , try a Christmas ornaments.
  6. If you decide to stick you game console in your mw oven the ods are not in your
    favor and after the attempt fails your chances of a correct repair
    procedure are lost.
  7. Just use some common sense and realize if this had a high successes rate
    every one would be doing it . in fact people would be modified
    micro wave oven for that purpose only and they would be fixing consoles
    In volumes.

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  • Jason

    lol, i know… thats total BS.

    I don’t even know HOW people can come up with such dumb “solutions” to fix a 360…. The next thing they will suggest someone to do will be to build an igloo around the 360 to keep it fresh…

    Just send the damn thing to the support thing!

    Im getting sick of this man, im going to start rolling out video tutorials pretty soon i think… Now that my site is looking ok…. (i think)

  • Jason

    i cant even believe that you tried it out Tyler…. lol

  • Heh, I’m desperate and will try anything once. 🙂

    Guess I’ll just give Microsoft a call again this evening. I’m gonna see if I can send my system in for repair this time, cuz this is getting ridiculous.

  • Jason

    btw, did your system really got HOT after the stupid towel thing?

    hehe, you know…. just making fun out of it!

  • Yah yah Jason, keep poking fun. 🙂 Really though, my Xbox 360 stayed fairly cool even when it was wrapped in the towel. But, it was just sitting there idle so I wouldn’t really expect it to get too warm. I definitely wouldn’t want to leave my Xbox 360 wrapped in a towel while playing a game. 🙂

  • Jason

    Interestingly, the towel thing might really do something to the chipset….. the heat could make something expand in the inside… at least thats what happened to me with my first custom PC…..

    Anyways, i really hope that you fix it fast!

    —————————
    PS. Halo 3 is coming……

  • Jason, that’s really what I was hoping would happen. Something inside would get just warm enough to break it’s cycle of not working…or something!

    Can’t wait for Halo 3. The screens/videos at Xbox 360 Fanboy are exciting. I’ve signed up for the beta, haven’t heard anything more on that from Bungie though. Getting my Xbox 360 fixed before Halo 3 comes out is a MUST!

  • Jared

    The towel trick works fellas i left my 3 red ring xbox on wraped in a towel for 20 mins and it has worked for a week so frar with not a problem. So yes it does work.

  • Jared, I’ve actually tested this out a few more times and have had moderate success. I have managed to get the 3 red lights to go away, only for a short period of time though.

  • Dan

    The 360 is a seriously high tech machine (multiple processors and such) and it cost enough. Mine is laid up right now and it sucks but theres no way I am wrapping a towel around my 400 dollar machine. I’ll just wait for the box so I can send it back. I’ve spent enough on games and stuff they cam make sure it works.

  • Abe

    The towel trick works. I swear on my life it works.

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  • Johnny

    so yeah, i tried the towel thing cause i was desperate, left it on for 15 minutes, turned it off and back on. it works now. who knows for how long though. thank you!

  • Thomas64

    The towel trick worked for me too, for a while at least. Eventually the red lights came back and I had to send it in.

  • Jordan

    yeah im pretty desparate to try anything…i did the towel trick for only like 5 minutes and already started to work better….but not great…

  • cliort

    hi all i brought a xbox 360 off some kid that was taking it to a games shop to sell it, i took it home plugged it in swithced it on and i have 3 red lights around the power button i have no idea about xboxes i have no box books or paperwork for my 360 WHAT DO I DO PEOPLE should i try the towel trick?, im not sure how i stand in getting it fixed can it go to MS even though i have no reciept or box? not sure? please someone help me! I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO HELP!!!!!

  • Yohan

    Wow.I was i need of some crazy ppl like you guys to find out some crazy tricks. But it works. This is my second Xbox 360 that i got from microsoft after my origanl purchase was craped out. Thanks tons.

  • I have the same issue and the error code is 0020 which is ‘unknown’. Could it be possible that MS is causing these issues via the updates just to make a little cash on the back end? I hate to sound like a conspiracy freak but I cannot get them to take my machine since my warranty went out just over ONE MONTH ago!? How convenient.

  • it should work becuase the 3 red lights mean that there are cracks in the solder traces on the mother board meaning if you wraped it up in a towel restricting the airflow it wil gett realy hot and hopefully melt the solder traces on the board back to the normal state but about a day after it will do it again so yeah call microshit and get yourself a replacement ! theres no way yet found to fix this

  • How difficult would it be to solder the traces back to their uniform state oneself? Is it next to impossible for a non-skilled solderer?

  • Dave: Great explanation of why this towel trick may work.

    Colin J.: If you want to solder the traces back by yourself, go for it. However, you’ll definitely void the warranty on your Xbox 360 by doing so. Simply opening the case will void the warranty, so take that into consideration before you decide to do anything. The safest bet would be to call Microsoft support and try to get your Xbox 360 repaired.

    Also, I don’t think MS is intentionally breaking Xbox 360’s with updates. All the problems with updates are probably related to the specific game developer, not Microsoft. But who knows, I could be way off here. I don’t think MS makes any money from these repairs anyway, as long as the Xbox 360 is still under warranty.

  • JD

    it worked for me last night yeah !!!!!! thnx back to my tiger woods

  • cliort

    hi all me again i didnt want to try the towel trick so i wrapped my xbox 360 up in my winter coat and waited for it to cook up (before this i removed the alloy cooling plates from ontop of the cpu/gpu and the grey thermal grease had run out from in between them so i put it back on the chips and put the cooling plates back on) after cookin it up for about 20 mins i removed the coat let it cool down for 1 min then switched it on hay presto i had tv output xbox screen half loaded/crashed, i switched it off for 3mins and switched it on again it loaded nfs carbon i played it for 2-3 mins and it crashed from over heating but the red lights have not come back so i guess i need some arctic silver 5 thermal grease as advised by a friend on the swapz site he was very helpfull and i thank him if hes reading this! thanks to all on this site advising the towel trick nice one people if only we all worked in the production center of microsoft they would be a reliable/stable games producer sorry MS but u know we are right on this one! lol

  • Dylan Geist

    Ok well I tried the towel trick for 15 minutes and it worked fine for about 2 weeks before I had to do it again.

  • MIKE

    !!! THIS CAN BE DANGOURSE BECAUSE OF THINGS GETTING HOT SO BE CAREUL IT IS BEST TO USE OVENMITS OR WINTER GLOVES… JUST IN CASE!!!
    The three light error is caused by faulty soldering on the motherboard. The best way I have found to fix this is to go the local hardware store and get a heat gun; then take apart your system. Take just the motherboard, pull the head sink off of the GPU only and place tin foil over the plastic pieces (on board). Then take the heat gun and place it on low heat and for 2 minutes trace the board in circular motions (front and back of board) focusing mainly on the GPU and RAM chips (4 chips around the GPU in rows of 2). Then place the heat gun to high heat and do the same thing for 2 more minutes. Then let the unit cool for at least 30 minutes. The unit will boot right back up. I have had successes with about 10 consoles so far. !!! THIS CAN BE DANGOURSE BECAUSE OF THINGS GETTING HOT SO BE CAREUL IT IS BEST TO USE OVENMITS OR WINTER GLOVES… JUST IN CASE!!! THIS WILL ALSO FOR SURE VOID ANY WARRANTY!

  • chris

    Its true ive tried everything to fans on heat sink every thing .Then i block all the ports for about 5 minutes heats up realy good then comes on .When i cool it it seems to go back to 3 red lights or freeze.i dont know ?going to change the thermal pad on heat sinks mine came out at launch
    2005 10 18 pretty sure i got that dam pad on the gpu .

  • i would recomend gettin some arctic silver 5 thermal grease for your gpu/cpu’s and clean out the old sillicone or pad and a thin layer should sort it out and did u cook it up enought i wraped mine up in a winter all waether coat for 25 mins and let it cool for 1 min then tried it and no red light and then let it cool for 3 mins and turned it on no red light after letting it cool comletely it worked (before cookin it up i removed the heat sinks on both cpu and gpu and put them back again)but over heats so i need artic silver 5 thermal grease i have a tube on order so i let u know how it goes.

  • Worked fine for me – I didn’t even let it go high in temperature, so I doubt it remelded the soldering. It’s a low-cost and relatively safe alternative to shelling out $140 and waiting 2 weeks for a repaired box.

    For the record – my box died right after and update as well. I wonder if that’s coincidence or if the fault is somehow associated with, say, the eFuses of the box.

  • RockingA Skunk

    This is my gamertag on xbl if anybody cares. Just thought is say that after i got the xbl updates for oblivion my 360 got the 3 red lights of doom.

  • Ok i don’t about you guys here but i can tell you one thing it worked for me.

    My xbox 360 has been dead for about 2 months i was to lazy to return it but i planned on doing it this monday.

    But then i stumble on this towel trick and i thought what the hell its the second time i get 3 red light of death, first it was on the very early xbox i got then i returned it got to microsoft got a new and then it happends again.

    So anyways i try the towel trick with two towels covering the whole xbox 360 up, i left it for about 50minutes, turned it off and took the towels off. I let it cool for about 15mins and then i knew it was not working i had no doubt that this would not work, nothing like this ever works for me :P. But im dead serious about this, it actualy is working, atm its still running and its been about 10minutes and i can only say that im fucking happy :P.

  • Atm its still working for me.
    Although sometimes when i press the on/off button it goes red so i have to press it again, but the it works again.
    Maybe it would help abit more if you let it stay with the towel for abit more than 3-4 hours

  • 3 Days so far and its still going strong, havent had the 3 red lights since the last time i posted

  • jake

    havnting even had my xbox 360 year yet and it has broke… and the towel trick don’ t work…. ill advise you not to buy a 360

  • Yassir Raja

    Guys, really disappointing.
    I bought mine pal version from UK and unfortunately it has died on me.. and the worst thing is i am in pakistan and sending it back is out of question.

    I was first excited to hear about the towel trick, but it din’t work for me 🙁 i m pissed on MS.

    After 5 years of bashing ps2, i guess the next gen gamers will be bashing xbox 360 for its poor quality.

  • gefunk

    My 360 froze on me during Jade Empire. I got the 3 red flashing lights and tried the towel wrap. After 50 minutes of being wrapped while on and then a 30 minute cool down turned off my 360 has been revived. I’ve been playing Gears and Need for Speed Most wanted for the past 4 hours straight and you’d never know anything went wrong. This fix WORKS!!

  • GERARDO

    yeah mine died like a month ago, i tried the air gun and worked for about 2 weeks, i changed the coolers to 12v when it happend to me the first time and this kept it very cool, but it happened again, i am trying the towel trick, i got nothing to loose because here in argentina 360 support doesn´t exist and all repair shops are doing the heat gun or the eraser trick on the rams, fuck it i will sell it for parts (power supply dvd drive cables and shit, and hope to get some money) and i will wait to ps3 to be cheaper in a year.Its in amazing machine, when it works, very sad thing, microsoft wont see no mo money from me. fuck them

  • Well I’ve had, Had My 360 for about 5 months and it broke down on me with this red light. If your xbox360 has that red light simpily turn off your xbox then unplug everything and from the wall and wait for about 5 mins then plug everything back. And it should work , if not just call 1-800-4MY-XBOX. Well good luck.

  • Alex

    Just a quick head up it does work and it works because when the xbox has the three red lights its alot of the time because of the crappy soldering m$ uses! Soo when you heat up your xbox 360 it remelts the solder. Therefore it can fix some 3 red light errors. Just because it happens to you and it doesnt work just means that the specific error isnt solder related!

  • BronzeTANK

    i’m gonna try this Towel Head Iraqui looking trick on my XBOX 399 and see if it works and if now i am going to flush it down the toilette and buy the ELITE with a whole bunch of BESTBUY warranties,,, not walmart anymore,,,, i called walmart and some Indian guy answered the phone and i asked to speak to the representative, he said “you work 4 o clock, ok .” and hanged up the fucking phone on me.

  • Bluemeanie

    My xbox died last week and after scouring the web for possible fixes while waiting for Microshaft to send me a coffin, I came across the towel trick.

    So last night I did it and after 15 mins my xbox automatically shut down from over heating. I let it cool for 45 mins and hey presto, was able to play on it for over 3 hours last night with no problems.

  • trotski

    Hi Guys.
    i woke up this morning turned on my 360.
    and my heart broke as i see 3 red flashing lights on my xbox.
    i thought omg. it happened the nightmare has come true.
    well i looked on the net acctually i found the towel trick on youtube.
    i rapped my little baby up well. then left on for maybe 20 mins maybe just a little bit more.
    but the god damn thing works just fine now.
    dont know for how long. dont even know why.
    and iam not going to guess why.
    all i know is it works again.
    for the guys whio are saying why dont you just calll microsoft and get another.
    no1 they charge you alot of doller. this is a fault of theres why the.f should we pay for there sloppy mistakes.
    also when you are out of warrenty. and you always are when the red ring of death comes knocking on your door.
    you are a little buggerd getting it fixed free.
    i know people who have got a new machine from microsoft. and within 2 to 3 months they have had the red ring of death on the machines from microsoft.
    so if you dont beleive this is a good idea.
    then your a little silly
    I also use an intercooler so really if it is a over heating problem. i should not have had a problem. yes.
    i also clean my xbox free of dust regular. and keep the fans clean of dust too.
    time microsoft admit there is a problem. stop charging us all for the faulty machine they have sold us.
    and fix them free. we already paid you microsoft. grrrr.
    £300 i paid on launch. the thing should last me and anyone else at least 6 years . and the rest.
    it is not good. not good at all.
    but hey. the towle trick is mint.
    mine now works like a dream. no problems. yet.!!!!
    dam you phill gates. how deep are your pockets m8.

  • trotski

    P.S..

    Been 3 days today since i toweled my xbox.
    still going strong.
    think i toweled mine for just over 20 mins.
    i hope others have just as much luck as i have had.
    maybe there is alot more to it..
    and getting the xbox hot. well. its not such a bad thing if it fixs the devil rings.Lol

  • Darrell

    Hello all I bought a dead xbox 360 on ebay made in 12-05 so yes I will be getting it fixed for free thanks to Microsoft. I can 100% guarantee the towel trick does work. I got the dead console today in a ups box, I wrapped it up completely and left it on for 10 minutes. Then i shut it off and back on and Presto ! Worked like a charm. This method does work !!! Dead 360’s on ebay rule !!! got a dead one for 92 dollars. still sending it in though. anyone who doesn’t believe i promise you this does work !!!

  • whocares

    The Towel Trick DOES WORK but it is gonna eventually burn out again after a couple of hours even if your not playing, YOU CANT ESCAPE THE THREE RINGS OF DEATH. Oh and PS3 STILL SUCKS!

  • trotski

    not sure how much playstation sucks anymore.
    sounds quite nice to me now.ps3.
    mmmmmmmmmm
    i think i will throw my xbox360 in the trash.
    because to be honest.
    i think it is trash.
    trash trash trash trashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    i had a ps2 when they first came out god knows how many years ago that was.
    andf i have the same one today.
    till works fine as new.
    that is what you pay for.
    up yours microsoft.
    screw the 360,
    anyway an extra terraflop sounds very nice. =P

  • CJ

    I have returned to playing games on my PC as well as making an effort
    to not purchase software put out by MicroSHIT.

  • trotski

    lol

    i like it microshit.
    lol sounds good.
    they should have recalled the 360’s and fixed them.
    but no.
    they have been too busy making the upgraded 360’s.
    microsoft do not think about the customer.
    they only think about there wallet.
    and iam sure this was true at sometime with the old xbox.
    i remember something about how microsoft are all for making money.
    but i liked the old one.
    it worked.
    people can say what they like.
    but when they have paid out £300
    for a machine then had the red ring of death. after there warrenty.
    then you dont really understand how annoying it is.
    microshit. rings true to me. Lol…=p

  • omg man i am realy angry its show that stupid redlights so wot will my xbox360 not work ne more

  • trotski

    dont worry too much
    try the towel trick
    but be pissed off.
    we all should be
    just think about how much your xbox cost you.
    and how much it means to you.
    i hope you can get it working with towel trick… good luck m8

  • grant

    Believe it or not the towel trick is not bullshit. It obviously is not the fix for all bad 360’s. Read in other forums about which 360’s it might work on. I happened to be one of those with 3 reds lights and error code 0102, which is who this fix often works for. This code means it is an unknown error but many believe it comes from bad connections, specifically the GPU. I just tried this out and it worked. I’m not sure it will work very long but for now my 360 is OK.

  • Hey, Fuckin Eh the towel trick works mericales. I was playing a demo and it froze turned it off then turned it on and got the red fuckin lights, thought all i could do was thro it out my window but i stumbled upon this towel trick and thought it was bull shit but fuckin shit it works perfectly just like it says try it out and it will work! BOOO YAHHH

  • The Towel Trick works to an extent, but whocares is right, it’s just a band-aid.

  • BennyBiceps

    Cant believe it got the 3 red lights of bastard death yesterday!! £85 quid to get it fixed!!! mine was one of the first ones made and i got it on launch date, the wierd thing is i was playing pro evo 6 on line, got an update from microshit and the 360 doesnt work now!! coincidence or what? think this is one for mullder and scully! one thing i do know is im defecting and getting the ps3, my ps1 and 2 are still working all these years on!! ive only had the 360 for 18months and its fucked!! what does that say about microsoft!!! fuck you Bill Gates!!!

  • BennyBiceps

    just a quick update, the towel trick works a treat! wrapped 2 towels around the xbox and left it running for 40mins with the 3 red lights of destruction (rol) on, turned it of and let it cool for 20 mins and its working!!! i think its only a short term measure but hey at least i can play lost planet now!!! still sending it off to microcash to be fixed properly then im going to buy the ps3 and use the 360 as a footstool or maybe an ashtray!!!!

  • ICeman

    The towel trick works, and as far as the person who claims XBox has excellent support, thats the real BS. I should of never bought an xbox 360 first week, shame on them for selling them knowing they’d break down coincidently when the warranty expired.

  • my pet JUDY

    Screw microsoft. Screw the 3 damed red rings. AND screw the towel trick! Im taking a baseball bat to my xbox tonight!!! I cant wait!!!!
    i already bought my PS3 and it rocks!!!!
    IT ROCKS!!!
    you now what?? ive always been a playstation person i knew i shouldnt have gone xbox…my bad

  • jd

    Guys this sounds like poor manufacturing, to say the least all of the fixes IE the towel trick; heat guns; etc are the result of cold solder joints on smt parts. The situation probably arises from the system overheating to some extent and creating these CSJ and then eventually breaking the circuit. They can only be fixed properly with high dollar equipment. I would say call Microsoft and complain about this. It is a simple design issue that should have been better addressed during design and testing. As far as calling microsoft I did, I wasn’t happy with the fact that my system even with the extended warrenty that I purchased was out of warrenty by 2 weeks, but there is nothing I can do about this. I wish someone that had access to good solder reflow oven would take advantage of microsofts screw up and fix these systems that are out of warrenty. It could be done for as little as $30-$45 per unit, if this is in fact the only damage that has been done to the system.

  • trotskiii

    cant we sue microsoft….?
    i been thinking about it, going to talk to my solicitor.
    they should have recalled our machines,
    and i think we all know it,
    it is just poor service on there part,
    they want to deny there is a problem.
    and are spinning the bull shit, that every machine is look at on a base to base service or what ever it is they say.
    it is just bollocks,
    these machines should be recalled.
    and it is really as simple as that.
    these machine should last us years.
    at least 3 to 4 years. maybe more.
    but most machines are lasting just over a year.
    now that to me is a very serious fuck up on there part.
    and we need to do sometrhing about it.
    i just sat down again, to play gears of war on my already toweled xbox and got the bloody lights yet again.
    so as i speak i am toweling my xbox again. for the 7th time.
    any body agree that there is a chance we can sue microsoft and get another machine. because we have all paid our £300,
    WE HAVE ALL SPEND SERIOUS CASH. And for what.
    for 3 red lights thats what. its damn shittty =p

  • Trotskii,

    That’s sounds like a superb idea. Check out this link and let me know what you decide to do:

    http://www.lawinfo.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/Client.lawarea/categoryid/63

  • A class action suit is definitely possible, I’d be surprised if one isn’t in the works already.

    Honestly though, I’d just sue Microsoft individually, by myself. If you hire a class action lawyer, his firm will end up with 70% of the settlement while the rest of us get screwed.

    A class action lawsuit is probably the way to go though since so many people are affected, I just don’t wanna help some lawyer retire early.

  • BennyBiceps

    Id love to see it in the press, Microsoft sued by millions of xbox users!!! it would make my day!!! i have actualy put some serious consideration into sueing microshit and i think it would be worth it if enough people decide to act! i look at it this way, if a trades man did a job at your home…lets say an extension and after 6-12 months it fell down…what would you do? you wouldnt wrap a fuckin towel round it and put up with the damage!! you would sue for compensation AND get the repairs done free!! microshit thinks that because it has a choke hold on the computer world it can take us all for mugs! my xbox has just this minute been picked up for repairs, i had problems the night i brought it home on launch night, with it scratching my game cds!! which brings me swiftly onto the subject of game prices! why are the games £50? whats special about them to justify £50? even when you trade them in after a week of owning a new release the price you get is shit!! i love gaming and always will and unfortunatly ill pay the prices, but when millons of us are getting ripped off with shoddy made consoles and over priced games just because its a passion of ours, then i think its time to take it to the top and let our voices be heard!!! rant over!! (LOL)

  • Benny,

    A lawsuit is the way to go but I do not believe you could afford the attorneys that Bill Gates can unless you go the way of class action. Lawyers are motivated by money and let’s face it none of us here have pockets as deep as MicroSHIT.

    With that in mind let’s consider what this website has to offer:

    http://www.lawinfo.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/Client.lawarea/categoryid/63

    I would be interested in pursuing this however only if there are enough of us to make it worth our while. Being thirty and having a business background means I understand how people start something but let the troubles of life bog them down. We need to commit to this course and take MS to the bank. I think the best bet would be for some of us (all of us on this forum) to start a print campaign.

  • CJ, you’ve sparked my interest. Look for an email from me later on tonight with some ideas about how we could proceed with a class action suit.

    This page has some good info as well:
    http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/faq.html

  • hi

    im aving the same problem my xbox360 is only 8 months old
    and 3 red lights were flashing when i turned it on i was propper pissed off my dad nos people who can fix xbox360s and chip them and he sad they all call the lights the def lights he said he fixed one befor but he had to get a new mother bord put in it he said xbox360 are shit only becouse 3 ov his have blow up if i get a new one and it does the same i will just sell it and us the money to put to for a ps3.

  • Pursuing a print media campaign again MS would be easy enough if we could get written testimonies from thousands of 360 owners stating the problem. I have a friend who owns one that just started doing the 3 lights of death last week and let me just say he is pissed.

    Print campaigns are easy. I really believe a t.v. show like Dateline NBC would take something like this on making the world aware of the scam MS has in producing a product with a guaranteed repair bonus cash flow built into the back end. And I believe this could be proven by the right attorney

    The problem with pursuing a class action lawsuit in this realm is that most of the owners of these systems probably wouldn’t respond the mailer informing them of the class action lawsuit and therefore make the lawsuit less valid.

  • no i just read about the towel trick and tryed it AND IT WORKED!!! i no haw to get rid of the def lights do the towel trick then leve it for ten mins on then tern it off for ten mins reset to factory setings and it shold work evry tme u turn it on sorry a bout the spelling but im just exsited because i but the xbox brocken 8 moths a go for £10.oop what a bargen.

    THANKS A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Good news is we can speak up and get in on the action. So let’s look at how to best pursue this course of action.

  • cj if my xbox360 does it agen i will do that thing wiv ya ok

  • trotskiii

    i still have not had time to see my solicitor.
    and i have already had thoughts about how good there solicitors could be.
    also i had my firmware flashed on my drive so that could def. go bad for me.
    but petition sould be a good way to go.
    and trust us nahar it will happen again. and again and again.
    have toweled mine 8 times now.
    cj what do you think is the best action for us to take.
    and we really need all of you and more to help us with this.
    even friends you have the whole point of this is.
    the machines are faulty very very much so.
    and they cant get away with this.
    we deserve a recall.
    and microshit soft shit ass mudder lickers. grrrrr.
    are shaking in there boots. of the thought of a recall.
    they are money grabbers. they are not interested in our interest.
    only theres.

  • trotskiii

    i have emailed Dateline NBC
    maybe we could all email them
    is a good start i guess.
    i also sent them the link to this forum.
    fingers crossed.
    we need to be heard guys.
    microsoft are taking the piss out of us all.

  • Trotskii has the right idea. We should all start by going to Dateline NBC’s website and letting them know what the deal is through countless emails. The more emails they receive the more seriously they will take us. On that note, go and recruit anyone you know in our same predicament.

    Some strategy on this whole campaign.

    1. Emails should approach the subject in a mature and professional manner; “Just the facts ‘mam.”

    2. NO questionable language. Do not refer to MS as Mirco-SHIT when emailing a outside source like Dateline NBC. Words like ass, bitch, bastard, etc… are uncalled for in any type of professional correspondence.

    3. The hook? We are innocent hard working, tax paying, family supporting Americans who have spent a lot of our hard earned money on a product that has an obvious defect from the factory and we deserve to be heard. This situation is UN-American. If Microsoft refuses to acknowledge us then they obviously value the quick nickel over the long dime.

    4. This is a classic case of the invincible corporate mogul using the poor working American as their whipping boy.

    Anyway, you guys get the idea. Use your own words since typical tract letters aren’t really that powerful. Hand written is a little corny but typed with a ‘handwritten’ signature at the bottom is ideal.

  • Here is the email I just sent, so that those of you shrugging have a general idea what to write. It doesn’t have to be fancy. Simple is better than complicated. It should be easy to digest in less than a couple of minutes. This way they actually read them.

    Hi,

    I will keep this brief. I am a thirty year old, hard working, tax paying, American with a wife and three kids. I like to unwind by playing my $500.00 Microsoft manufactured XBOX 360. Problem is, shortly after the warranty expired my XBOX downloaded an updated from XBOX online and then refused to work any longer. Xbox wants $150.00 to swap mine with a refurbished model. After countless hours of net research and finding that I am just one of thousands of others, including a friend of mine down the street, experiencing this same issue, I believe this is a recall issue that MS is capitalizing on to make more money.

    Who stands up for hard working Americans when corporate America spits on us?

    Dateline NBC, that’s who.

    Thanks,

    Colin J Jeffcoat IV

    Owner/Builder Network of Charleston
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    http://www.obnonline.com
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  • Okay, I am starting over-write my welcome on this forum but here is the response I just received from Dateline:

    Thank you for your E-Mail to Dateline NBC. We are very pleased with the enormous response we are getting. Although we cannot write a personal note to each of you, we do print out our messages, look at them and discuss your comments and reaction, and we do sometimes quote your E-Mail on the air in our ‘feedback’ segment. If your correspondence is in reference to a specific segment, that letter will be forwarded to the segment producer for review.

    If you have a specific story suggestion please send it to:

    STORY SUGGESTIONS
    Dateline NBC
    30 Rockefeller Plaza
    New York, NY 10112

  • Okay gents and ladies (I am guessing some of us might be ladies 😉 ) I am going to sit down this weekend and actually type up a short letter explaining my hubris and send it to the address above for STORY SUGGESTIONS with Dateline. Tomorrow morning I have to rip my BMW’s engine apart in order to change the valve cover gasket and spark plugs out and since I need my car tomorrow afternoon, I think the letter is going to have to wait at least until the evening.

    If it is not too much to ask I would like to have at least half of those posting here do the same. Who knows, perhaps they will give some of us a phone call wanting a, live and in person, interview. Perhaps some of us will actually be on the tele one of these days.

    When I get it in the mail I will give you all a shout out.

  • trotskiii

    No disrespect to you cj..
    its not just americans m8,
    iam english. and i know of 6 people in my town who have all had the red rings of death. i live in bridlington. its only a small village just a sea side town.
    this is not just an american issue. but a world wide issue.

    i am glad you have my back on this, much respect to you m8.
    i really hope others will follow us on this.
    i email dateline too. with resonable words, no swearing of any kind.
    i received the same response as you have.
    so i will write a letter too.
    please, anyone who is reading this, we really need all your support.
    are you going to just sit back and think or well’ i will send them the money for my machine fixing.
    which will have the same problems after 1 year and a bit.
    or are you going to use your voice.
    its time to rise guys.
    it brakes my heart my xbox 360 has broken.
    i wanted it to last forever. or at least 10 years.
    round abouts.
    i at least expect my moneys worth.
    and non of us have got what we deserved.
    a great console. without big faults. that we have to pay out for.
    what microsoft have done here is discusting.
    its just more money to them.
    and it is going to be massive money to them.
    because imagine how much money they are going to make each year as everyones xbox needs fixing again.
    its not right. it is very bad customer service indeed.
    they cant deny this issue, they are trying to though.
    it is up to us to try and do something about it.
    god damn them. money grabbers. they are a very rich company.
    but not a very plesant one.
    what was bill gates words at e3.
    i forget now. something about being a big family,
    you know all that stuff.
    he talked like we were the ones that matter to microsoft.
    that our interests was his.
    well if thats true. give us all a console that works. thats reliable. thats a good start mr gates. and pls. dont charge us extra for it.
    we already paid you. =P

  • CS

    My xbox was finally dead when I turned it on last night. The last time I played it I had been playing guitar hero II and noticed that it was even hotter than usual (as in alarmingly hot). After reading this I’m thinking that when it cooled down the solder joints hardened in a bad way. Going to try the towel trick tonight and I’ll post the results.

    I wish someone would start a lawsuit concerning this. Microsoft has taken away their previous offer to fix launch date consoles for free after already admitting that there were “manufacturing problems” with them. Now, because my xbox didn’t break until recently because I don’t play it that much, I gotta shell out $150 bucks?

  • Graffitz

    Guys. The tower trick does work and I had fun playing my xbox 360 last night. However, when i was playing the new game that i bought, Spiderman 3, I was quite scared that the 360 would screw up half way and leave my poor disk inside. Some people can’t even open their disk tray after the red rings of death show up. So can anyone give me a direct answer how long with the towel solution last? Anyone?

  • trotskiii

    graffitz.
    my machine always opened ok when i had red rings of death
    so hope yours does too.
    i was talking to some techno geek yesturday.who beleives it all has some thing to do with the coolng system inside our 360s.
    which makes alot of sence.
    he rekoned by heating it up.
    you got rid of anyair bubbles that could be in the gas cooling system. i thought it was water cooled but thios guy tells me it is a type of gas.
    and when it heats up it flows around and cools your system.
    anyhowwwww.
    dont know how long will last for you m8.
    can only say ….???????

  • Graffitz

    How many times can i do the overheating trick? Coz my replacement is in 2 weeks. Its under warrantee. Is it possible to do it more than once?

  • trotskiii

    pls graffitz
    if you read our comments you will see .
    that me myself have done my xbox 8 times.
    but now 9.
    bloody thing. is really pissinmg me off.
    especially now forza 2 is out

  • BennyBiceps

    ive posted on here before and im only gonna say we have all be ripped off by microshit, the 360 is awesome in principle but shit in practice. im a good old british gezzer and im going to email DATELINE NBC and i urge everyone wherever you live in the world to email these guys. we are all hard working people and microcash has taken us all for our hard cash and ripped us off, lets embarrass them through media coverage!!!!

  • trotskiii

    DAMN RIGHT

  • BennyBiceps

    the one thing ive noticed in a lot of the cases for the 3 red rings of death is the online download, a lot of people including myself got a microcash download and the next thing is….well you know the rest…my 360 had been fine since i bought it on launch night and then i went online with pro evo 6, i hadnt played online for around 6 months and then the 3 red lights came on a day or so later, is microcash doing this on purpose?? enquirinq minds want to know!! £85 to fix mine and the americans have to pay $150 this is big easy revenue for microsoft!!!! i thought it was illegal to have a monopoly!!!!!

  • Graffitz

    My 360 screwed up for the 3rd time. This is so disappointing. I have done the towel trick like 4 times already and in 1 day it stops working. Are there any other solutions?

  • trotskiii

    yes

    sue microsft.

    or

    hammer your xbox. sledge hammer would do a better job.
    or piss on it. or piss on bill g.

    another option buy a playstation 3.

    keep toweling. but do at 10 mins at a time try and if not working give it 20 mins. in time problem gets worse.
    after trying to towel and having no joy.
    give it a rest and try again later.
    ask an electronics shop if they know anything about gas cooling systems.
    or if they can check your machine see if they can attain the problem.
    microsoft are not going to tell us what this problem is.
    they want the money for fixing it.
    when they should be fixing it for free anyway,,
    after all the damn things are faulty.
    sue. sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue sue. xbox360 is very faulty.
    why should we have to pay for it.
    already paid lots of cash already.

  • trotskiii

    god damn it

  • d_bratcher

    just want to say microsoft sux, I have tried everything, thetowell trick, the heat gun, new cooling fans, i even sent it in but they sent it back because i voided the warranty by opening the damn box to use the heat gun. I got almost 1000.00 wrapped up in this damn thing and now its a pile of shit. thanx microsoft for being so shitty

  • d_bratcher: It’s Microsoft’s fault that you opened your Xbox 360 case? Did you call Microsoft about your problems before you opened the case?

    I guess the 3 red lights never should have happened in the first place, so ultimately, it is Microsoft’s fault.

  • trotskiii

    ????????????

  • billy2k7

    i have jus found the fuckin 3 rings!!!!

    i fukin want to get a hammer and smash it up!!!!

    i have alsotried the towel trick and it didnt work!!!!

    gunna go and get a noew 360 me thinks tomorrow coz i still av a guarentee WOOP!!!!

    ermm other than tht FUKIN microstoft can suck my dick faulty shit i hope bill you become broke and you lose all your money!!!

  • BennyBiceps

    got my 360 back from microcash repairs yesterday, it was the motherboard that had caused the 3 red lights, thats been replaced but it seems that more than that has been changed, for starters the case is the original one, but all the ports,disc holder and the fans seem a little bit too clean! i have been given a new warranty and 1 months free xbox live with credits, although this cost me £85 its still cheaper than buying a new one but im not exactly happy at shelling out money on somthing that should last longer than 18months. im still getting the ps3 at some point but after going in my local game shop today there are some very tasty games coming out next month for the xbox, so i think ill keep the 360 but also have the ps3, best of both worlds!! to all the people doing the towel trick, it works but trust me it WILL drive you mad keep wrapping towels round your xbox! i know this all too well!! cut your losses and get it fixed, its not what you want but at least you can game without interuption!!!

  • SneakyBastard

    uhm why hasn’t anyone thought of the free fix =]

    got to Wallmart buy a new one swap out hte insides repack the one you bought in the box reseal return to store get money back cost you nothing! the ultimate 0$ fix hahaha

  • trotskiii

    Lol….

    Nice One Sneaky bastard. Lol
    Thought about it. Lol
    just dont have money for.
    and the trick is keeping the warrenty sticker nice and neat.
    maybe hair dryer. if you warm up the warrenty sticker will it come off ok do you think.
    hehehehehehe
    must be an easier way.
    nothing like waliking back in the store and them finding out your warrenty sticker is void. ooops shit. well ermmmm runnnnnnnn.
    lol
    i just have to keep wraping my xbox up like a little baby in towels.
    try to talk nice to it.
    didnt talk so nice to it tonight. but i think will be ok. lol
    i sit and wait now again.
    for god damn lights to go away.
    just put my baby to sleep for 20 mins.
    then i will wake it up again.
    lol
    bloody microsoft.
    bet the new machine they made wont have these problems.
    in years to come we may just laugh about all this.
    BUT NOT TODAY. GRRRRR ARRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH… 8$

  • trotskiii

    FUCKERS

  • trotskiii

    I JUST DONT HAVE A SPARE £85 YOU TWATS MICROSOFT. My gOD.
    FUCKING MACHINE ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • TaeDawg19

    I have tried the towel trick a month back b/c of the ROL having 3 red lights and it hasn’t given me problems yet.

  • JFNA

    FUCK U BILL GATES, SERIOUSLY FUCK U

  • JFNA

    heres an idea for ya buy a new one take it out of tha box and put the old piece of shit broken one in the new box. then u go back to the store w/ your new reciept and return that shit…stick it to the man…he can afford it…preferably Wal Mart

  • BennyBiceps

    ok boys and girls! heres the deal! i posted a message to say get your xbox fixed, dont fuckin bother!!! ive paid £85 for the repair of the 3 red rings of death and guess what, 3 plays later and……..the 3 red rings are back!!! microsoft are…i repeat…fuckin shit!!! its the last straw, everyone..get your xboxes and just send them to microcash with a note saying microsoft are whores and that you are buying a ps3, cos thats what im doing. xbox360…bullshit machine and bullshit makers!!! FUCK EM ALL!!

  • trotskiii

    ive been doing the towel trick for some time now.
    just got forza 2 today and i got the lights again.
    omg. welll.
    my mate. he has fixed a 360 before.
    just resoldering the bad joints,
    because thats whats going on here if you dont know already.
    microcash used shitty solder when they mass produced our xbox360s
    and now the solder is failing.
    my mate has fixed one already.
    he is doing mine as i talk to you now.
    just resoldering the joints.
    he took it to his home so i sit here and wait for him to come back.
    the one he did a while back has worked fine for a month now
    no problems.
    i will let you know how mine goes.
    i am not going to give microsoft anymore of my money.
    i cant beleive they are getting away with all this.
    just remember how much we must mean to them.
    hmmmmmmm…. not much i think.
    thats really bad management on there part.
    if you dont look after your customer.
    then why would the customer stay with ya.
    we are in a bit of a fix.
    because of the games. thats only reason.
    but. i will be damned if i am giving out any more money to that money machine.
    they have all the cash.
    they have become a very gready company. if they was not already.
    they are really hoping this issue will be swept nice and quitly under the rug.
    it really is down to the media if they suceed or not.
    they could have dealt with this in a much more reasonable manner.
    one that does not cost us extra.
    85 quid may not be alot to them. but it is a weeks giro to me.
    it is more than a weeks giro.
    and even if you have a job. the point is still why the hell should we pay for there mistakes.
    god damn it. where is my farrari microcheep.

  • trotskiii

    have my machine back from my friend.
    he has fixed it.
    he is like the 360 god… LOL
    wish i could tell you how he has done it.
    i may ask him if he will write a blog on here.
    and best of all. my friend did not charge me one penny.
    all i know is he has done some soldering, and put something somewhere to keep the tension so the pins keep in contact think he must mean on my processor. but i really can not tell you i dont know.
    but it works great.
    my drives lazer has been potted too.
    as i have firmware.
    for my backups.
    there those who dont know, when you pot your lazer in your drive. it alters the ohms. makes your lazer read discs better.
    just you must be very carefull how much you alter it.
    think he changed it from 3.5 ohms to 3.1 ohms round abouts.
    reads discs just great now. even cheep ones.
    wish i could help you guys more.
    but getting the soldering done is a must.
    toweling is great but. is going to kill your machines chips in time.
    good luck guys.
    think i am gunna be ok now. touch wood. and p.s up your microsoft. £85 is staying in my pocket thanx. =p

  • Okay. Microsoft has a cousin and their name is Hewlett Packard. I have been battling with them now for about two weeks on getting my zd8000 computer fixed. Right this very minute I am on hold and have been for about 20 minutes. I have been on the phone since approximately 1000 EST and it is now 1120 EST. What gives?

    I am going to blog all this later today, so if anyone is interested go check out my blog. Oh, and check out this complaint I found on Craigslist.com: http://detroit.craigslist.org/vnn/318239958.html

  • Dylan

    yo just to let you guys know, it prolly did work for him because sometimes itll start working totally random. itll do the red lights all day and not le t you play but the next day youll turn it on and you can play for a bit (for me about 2 minutes) and it goes out again. so don’t give this guy crap. Also you can try this little trick and itll tel you whats wrong, its about halfway through the link :

    http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Xbox-360-error-codes.htm

    my code was unfortunately one of the unknown codes so my warranty will just have to cover it. good luck guys.

  • trotskiii

    my xbox360 is so random. Lol
    still having problenms here.
    seems soldering has not fixed it.
    i got an error code up.
    4424
    is a overheating problem or not overheating problem.
    seems if i let my xbox overheat it will start working again.
    but if i play a game from cold for only a few minutes then turn off my xbox.
    i will get the red rings of death.
    but f i play a game for a long time, maybe over one hour or longer. i can turn off my console and back on without problems.
    very odd.
    my xbox is back in bits again.
    trying to work it out.
    hope for a fix soon.
    try looking up error codes.
    my code they are not sure about at microsoft yet. says maybe an overheating problem.
    god damn machine. just got forza 2 also. god damn it.
    argghhhhhhhhhhhh,

  • Patrick

    Trying it out now, if it doesn’t work, there’s always a warrenty =D

  • Patrick

    Well, after wrapping it up in two towels, one on top of the other, for 8 minutes exactly, it works again.I’ll post a follow up if and when it stops again.

  • billy bob boy

    im sure this has happened to many other people, but i will explain my story.
    i bought my xbox 360 shortly after release in december. i was happy to open up the box for christmas. My console worked PERFECTLY. i mean, i had probably 3 freezes the whole time i had it. then, in january, ( very conveniently i month after the warranty ran out), i played the console until about midnight. i think i may have been downloading something????? . the next morning i attempted to turn my console on only to get the three red lights. i called customer service 4 times, each time getting some indian fuck who couldnt understand english. customer service’s method worked for about 30 minutes each time. since my warranty had worn out, i went online to find out how to fix it myself. i ended up breaking the seal and fixing it. i used the hot air gun/ blow dryer method. i used a blow dryer. it worked . played for maybe …3 hours. turned it off. next day, turned it on and it worked but froze almost immediatly. i tried the towel method to no avail. i thought about buying one of the new xbox 360 elites, but then got to thinking, “what is the fucking point in buying a new machine , thatll break as soon as my warranty runs out?” im lost in what to do. it looks like ill have to buy a new console if i want to still play my well over 1000.00 dollars worth of controllers, games and other gear. but i dont feel confortable in spending almost 500 bucks on something to break again. also, does anyone have any idea how to pull off the , oh i dont know how to describe it, the grate thing covering up the cpu??? i cant pull it off. and i dont want to force it in case of there is indeed a light at the end of this very dark DARK tunnel….
    anything would help.

  • *CALLING ALL*

    I know a lot of us are having problems with our Xbox’s and it seems as though it is either a never ending cycle or Microsoft seems unwilling to truly assist us in addressing these issues.

    I feel that if we all unite as a single force, we can open someone’s eyes! We need to get all the people together in one place! My suggestion is, let us grab all the gamers, friends, posters, bloggers, IMers, whoevers and get them all onto the Myspace page that I have created just for this reason. Send everyone you can! WE HAVE POWER IN NUMBERS!!!

    Remember to post your story. Be professional, courteous and mature in your postings please. Let’s take the high road and be civil.

    http://www.myspace.com/my360sux

  • ross

    wat a pile of crap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thanks to u me xbox 360 is broke do not do the towl trick it shit

  • jamie in glasgow

    trying the towel trick right now

  • Nick

    The towel trick got it to start a game but it only worked for 3 minutes and froze during a save and erased all of my game data for the game. I don’t get the 3 red lights anymore but it just freezes. My box is in the mail now for me to send it in for repairs. I would rather pay money for it to be fixed by professionals and another year of warranty that comes with that then using a hot air gun trying to fix it or the towel trick.

  • BennyBiceps

    well said nick! my thoughts exactly!! heres a good one for y’all, the DHL guy picked up my 360 for the 2nd time in a month to be taken for repairs, he told me he had been to a house 4 times in the past 3 months picking up a 360 for repair!!! what does that say about the quality of repairs??? back to the towel trick,it does work and its good in the short term but pay and get it fixed,its better in the long run! ive just had my repair fee refunded due to it being sent back again,so now i have extended warranty and all the guts of the console changed for uprated parts,its worked out cheaper than buying a new console, lets hope it lasts longer than a week though this time!!!!oh and they gave me a load of credits for xbox live! bonus!!! ill let you know what happens when i get it back!!

  • Benny,

    I am not sure I understand. Are you paying for this or did you pay the initial $130.00 to get the ball rolling here?

    I have owned my 360 since they first came out before the XMAS of 2005 (I believe) and have not made any headway with MS regardless of how nice or nasty I am on the phone.

    Thoughts?

  • Hi I had this problem also and I tried the towel trick but it only worked for two weeks. I finally found a permanent solution that works great!

    Here is the page for the 3 red lights solution

    Good luck

    Lory

  • trotskiii

    thanks alot lory.
    thats some great info you found, nice one.

  • BennyBiceps

    colin

    id had my 360 from launch date so the warranty had run out, paid £85/ $130, with that they gave me another 12month warranty on the console plus xbox live credits and repaired the console.
    the console packed up after 3 plays, so i rang them back explained what a joke the situation was and they are currently repairing right now. i have been given a reference number and have been told to ring back when i receive the console after repair and a refund of £85 will be given. job done!! hope this helps colin.

  • Lory’s solution worked for me. My 360 is playing a movie as I type this, but let me say that this is not for the fainthearted. Taking the 360 apart is a challenge all on its own and several times this task had me wanting to throw the bad boy at the wall. Of course then I am not very techy either, which is great news for those of you who are a little techy.

    I will update everyone if it bursts into flames or calls down beings from another planet to beam me away… errr… maybe not if that last thing happens 😉

  • Still working guys. I have had an update and downloaded a demo as well as several game videos with no problems.

    I think Lory’s fix may be the real thing.

  • j0E

    its not the updates ive not had any 🙁

  • bob

    So wah happened with the class action suit?

  • BEAR

    MY XBOX 360 IS FLASHING 3 RED LIGHTS AND I DONT HAVE A DVD PLAYER AND I WANT TO WATCH GIRLS GONE WILD.

  • Jase

    I purchased my EX-box nov ’05. Yesterday 3 red lights. Got on the phone (800myxbox) & spoke with a rep for about 45 min. There is a magic word I found. SONY! After I said I would invest my $140 towards a PS3 before I put it into a product that was built with sub-par standards, I was put on hold. Ten minutes later a 25% disc.
    Now this went on till I got her down to 50%. I ran out of time before I could reach the price I would pay for a manufactures defect = $0.00.
    I am far from a cheap person. It is not the price thats the issue. I want I company that stands behind there product and supports there customers.
    Steve Jobs make a console. Please. At least if it was crap you could beat someone at a Mac store with it.

  • Alex

    Trotski everything youve said is bullocks. The real way to fix the 3 ring of death it to open it up cover the meltable components in tin foil. Get a heat gun and in circular motions heat it up. Remelting the solder PROPELY and not by some shitty towel trick.

    What were you talking about gas cooling you noob.

    Xbox 360s rule… when they work

  • This one makes sence “One’s first step in wisdom is to kuesstion everything – and one’s last is to come to terms with everything.”

  • Trevor Carlee

    This is to everyone who is calling this a “dumb trick” and they “don’t even know how some people come up with these.”

    The reason this works is because the solder used on the circuit board is cheap. Microsoft opted to save money on the solder so it flakes out after a while. Wrapping a towel around the XBOX and letting it run for a certain period of time (varies for each XBOX … maybe why it didn’t work for you) makes the solder remelt for a few more hours. But it’s only a temporary fix.

    And the reason people don’t want to go to Microsoft is because most of our warranties are up and Microsoft wants to charge us $150 to fix a problem that (A) is their fault in the first place and (B) can easily be fixed for about $5 when you send it to them. So they’re pocketing another $145 or so off of us just because they’re fixing a problem that they knew was going to come to fruition soon enough anyway.

    So, really Microsoft is the one you should be kicking!

    That is all.

  • jamie in glasgow

    2 weeks ago I got the three red lights of death.took 2 weeks off for the forza launch and it happened on my first day.tried the towel trick,2weeks past and its still working.well wotrh trying

  • Harry

    HI GUYS!
    My XBOX 360 had these 3 rings for 8 months and I was about to sell it on Ebay. I wrapped it in a towel for 30 mins and the red lights went off but only for a minute. I then put it in my microwave for about 45 seconds to 1 minute and NOW IT WORKS! Thanks guys you are the ones who inspired me to try this. It is because the microwave works by fixing the solder tracks.

    How grand!

  • trotski

    you must have a big microwave. dont think my xbox would fit in my microwave

  • Harry

    Well you could probably try an oven if its bigger but I have a 70 litre microwave industrial. Microwaves radiations actually slightly melt the solder though and they flow in the path to fix dodgy connections.

  • Daniel

    I cannot believe that you put your 360 in a microwave! Did you stand really close to it when you turned it on? Folks, don’t try this at home. Seriously (I have been building computers and doing electrical soldering for many years), as long as you are willing to risk seriously damaging your 360 (it can happen even to the most careful) you should open the case and examine the CPU and GPU mounts, heat sinks and connections. If it is a problem with the solder as many have stated, you should be able to tell with close examination. You may need to carefully remove the clamps first, so be careful. If I were to do this myself, I would probably replace the heat sink(s) and carefully solder every surface that was originally soldered by Microsoft after I cleaned all of the surfaces carefully. The trick is to make sure that the contact surfaces are really tight before applying the solder. (some Q-tips and alcohol might come in handy, along with the right soldering alloy and a soldering iron) I would also be tempted to either replace the fans or add an additional fan(s) that would blow air out over the GPU and CPU. I would not place any eraser material with two-sided tape into a console that gets very hot. Of course, once any of us do this, MS will refuse to service our 360s. I’m going to give Microsoft one chance to see how they do and I will then repair my console myself if necessary. Whatever you guys do, think it through and be careful. At least until a core drops below 200, then, what the hell! 🙂

    Check this link for soldering basics:

    http://www.miniaturemolds.com/soldinst.htm

    Even though the above link was not written to address motherboards, it covers the basics of soldering very clearly for the uninitiated.

  • Harry

    Yes I see what you are saying but for the novice they run the risk of introducing static and further damaging the mainboard!
    By placing it in the microwave you are not voiding the warranty (unless you put it in for like 10 minutes and melt the plastic or make some obvious visual cues!!!).
    Just dont overdo it and if it doesnt work (I have also fixed my friends xbox same method!) then go through with the warranty as it can take time & money if its run out..

    And no I stood back from the microwave when I turned it on to be safe! You can hear the solder melting into the tracks hehe

  • Chris

    Hello yes Im Having trouble with my 360 its so unplayable it freezes every two minutes.Ive tried the trick when you lift the power cord of the floor.But still no result.

  • Nathan

    omfg!!! I tried the towel trick and it worked for a few minutes then broke again.. then I read Harrys post and thought ehh what the heck I have no warranty left.. I put it in my microwave for 50 seconds (I was too scared for a full minute lol)

    I turned it on, knowing it wouldnt work and… its fixed! I have been playing it for 3 days so far and havn’t had one issue yet! I have no idea how or why this works but it does!!!

  • Matt D.

    hey tyler, ive heard that you said u tried the towel trick and the console didnt get hot, the whole purpose of that trick is to get the console so hot that it remelts the sauder to help it mold back together and if it didnt get hot then the sauder just stayed the same let the console run 20-30 min in the towell, even use 2 or 3 towels, hopefully u didnt pay the 140$ hope this help. 🙂

  • BigDwuzhere88

    Hey guys thanks for the help myu x-box has had the fucking rings of death for going on 6 months now i saw the towel trick and i triend it for about 5 min and presto it came on but only for a couple seconds it’s been sitting in a towel now for about 15 min i will soon see how well this works if not i’ll be left with no choice but to throw it in the microwave which honestly scares the shit out of me but i’d rather do that then pay microshit $150 to fix it thanx again 4 the help

    P.S. this is my gamertag if i ever get my system working again

  • Tim

    I just bought my first 360 off ebay knowing about the ring of death problem it had. I received the 360 today and turned it on and the red lights popped up. I read about this towel trick and tried it out…well 30 minutes under the towels then a few minutes to cool off and now it’s working wonderfully! This really does work! 🙂

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    thanks.

  • Harry

    What exact service do you do? Can you provide details of cost etc if you are credible?

  • lee h

    had my xbox wrapped up in atowel yhay long ive now dicide it looks really nice wrapped in sumthin! PREFERABLY A FUCKIN BIN BAG!!!! SORT IT OUT BILL! OR BOB OR FUCKIN MICKY MOUSE COS UR RUNNIN SUM DISNEY SHIT!!!!

  • lee h

    i know lets put microshite in the ring of death!!

  • leeh is mentally retarded. He can’t spell anything right and sounds like a dumb ass. By the way, the towel trick works.

  • L33t Xbox

    omg..
    I was so sick of my Xbox, started playin up last week and I left it off for a while and turned it back on.. Worked for a little while but then just gave up 2 days ago full stop. red lights of death. Have no warranty because I bought it from Ebay less than a month ago!!!
    Anyway found this towel trick and I was a bit sceptical – and it didnt work… Then I found this stuff about the microwave, I honestly thought it was bullsh!t but I really have nothing to lose.. So I chucked it in for 1 minute and stood back… Pulled it out and plugged it in.. waited.. waited and it actually works!!! I told my friends and they don’t believe me lmao!! Thanks Harry you are the best!

  • BigDwuzhere88

    Hey guys its me again! Thanks for all your help. I did that microwave thing and got my MIROSHIT BOX working haha. See you’s in the game

    Look up my gamertag BigDwuzhere88 so I can own you

  • MATT

    hey, i dont know what you guys are talking about, the towel trick works, ive done it 4 times and i dont know what you were talking about when u said 10 minutes and it works for 3 hours, your supposed 2 let it overheat until you get 4 red lights, should take 30 minutes to an hour, than u let it cool off, take the towel off and your good to go, mines worked for 2 whole months before i had to do the towel trick again. i was gonna send it in but id take 30 minutes off once a month than pay 140, so i dont know wtf u guys are talkin about, it works

  • MATT

    hey, i dont know what you guys are talking about, the towel trick works, ive done it 4 times and i dont know what you were talking about when u said 10 minutes and it works for 3 hours, your supposed 2 let it overheat until you get 4 red lights, should take 30 minutes to an hour, than u let it cool off, take the towel off and your good to go, mines worked for 2 whole months before i had to do the towel trick again. i was gonna send it in but id take 30 minutes off once a month than pay 140, so i dont know wtf u guys are talkin about, it works

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  • trotski

    ok guys….

    i ahve a mate who fixes them perminatntly.
    and he did mine for free. because he is a freind,
    but microsoft told us they was are freinds and look what they are doing guys,
    my god. we can not let them get away with this,
    they cant they will not.
    i think after another year of ok 360s braking somebody will say hey. thats not right, thenm damn michines are epensive,
    microsoft are trying there best to cover all this up,
    lets stop them.
    until then
    all i know is my mate will fix them for £30 england area.
    i hope in time we will have something better
    we dont deserve this.

  • BigDwuzhere88

    Matt – Towel trick CAN work but not for everyone – and if it does work its usually only temporary (although it sometimes works more than once). This microwave trick actually works permanently and it only takes 1 minute or less – permanent fix for the problem.. Lol who wants to wrap their microshit in a towel every few days… THANKS BILL!! FOR NOTHING

    As for Shadowro – go away you scammer – 30 day warranty?? pfft even the towel trick works for longer than that

  • BEAR
  • Bear, that’s great news. I actually just made a new post about it here:
    http://www.longren.org/2007/07/06/xbox-360-3-year-warranty/.

  • kyle

    will the 360 catch in fire if you put it in the microwave for 40 seconds?

  • Matt

    BigDWuzHere, i tried the microwave trick….and my 360 is even more screwed then before. The only way I can turn it on is by opening the disc tray, the power button doesnt work anymore, and it cant connect to any wireless controllers, so im pretty much screwed now….i dont recommend that microwave trick…

  • BigDWuzHere

    Matt, how long did you put it in for? You only need to put it in for a minute or less. its the towel trick that needs about 15 mins… If u put xbox in microwave for 15 mins it WILL get screwed.

    kyle: Anything less than a minute seems to do the trick, it wont catch fire in less than a minute lol

  • Matt

    na man i had it in there for less than a minute, i took it out when i smelled it and looked and there was a little smoke like when u melt plastic, it was at about 37 seconds out of a minute when it started smelling and smoking and it was screwed, i just traded it in to eb games for 100 bucks, they knew it was broken so they only gave me 100 and i bought a new core just now, hope i dont have any problems with this shit.

  • bennybiceps

    thought you would like to know that a little article in the daily mail newspaper ( UK ) about the 360 problems. it seems microcash have indeed realised they have a major problem, with a headline saying ” faulty xboxes cost microsoft £500m ” it goes on to say they have set aside £500m for repairs.
    microsoft have also stated that they have ” made UNACCEPTABLE number of repairs” and Peter Moore, corporate vice-president of xbox division said ” things do break, and i feel bad about that. we havent done a good job.” i could of told him that the dickhead!!!
    the company went on to say that they didnt know if it was specific xbox360s or a design fault. well i have a good idea what it is…xbox360s are good in principle bad design, the article also stated the problems we are experiencing, ie,over heating, poor manufacture and short life span.
    microsoft may have begrudgingly admitted the faults exist to the media but unfortunatly they have seemed to have sold us, the consumer, down the river!
    like i said on another post i had to send my 360 back after a so called repair….that was 5 weeks ago!!! microsoft are a shit outfit that have had a monopoly on computers for far too long and with the 360 problems and i believe the rot has now set in! would sony treat us like this????

  • Bill

    ok the towl trick does work but is only a temp fix
    I was hesitant to try this but i did it anyways
    sure enough the unit overheated and i then had 2 flashing ligts , turned it off waited 30min and i was back playing BF2 again. 15 min into the game it froze, Reset again and ligts came back. Then got 2 square 12cm Server fans. placed one at the back of the unit where the intake fans are(blowing air in) and the other on the side where the outlet holes are (sucking air out) . I also cut down the top off a milk crate (bout 1″) and placed my unit on top. Powered unit on again and it booted ok , Have played for 3 days now without a problem

    If you choose the towl trick make sure you have a nice sized fan at the back of your inlet fans and get the unit off the ground. Goodluck!!!!

  • Chris

    Well after reading all these posts I was a bit hesitant at first to try the microwave thing. I’ve been using the towels with no worries for about a month now but it was really starting to sh!t me. I ended up doing the microwave thing (I have a 1000 watt microwave by the way) so I put it in for 45 seconds… Cross your fingers – its been working no problem since then for 3 days.

    Out of curiousity how powerful is ur microwave Matt?

  • Matt

    My microwave is 900 watts, dont know why mines fried but it did

  • Pyotr Mannel

    I just did the towel trick and worked. Hoping it stays that way for a couple of days =D. I called Microsoft too.. just in case it hapens again the “magic box” will be wating to be sent and come back with a fully funtional 360 ^^!

  • Pyotr Mannel

    Pretty bad -blam! 11 min. 48sec. had just passed since I turned the console on playing Forza 2 happily and then.. “”freeze”” no response at all. I won’t be surprised if I turned my 360 back on and find the red lights again.

    It is completely true that the towel trick does work fine for some people, very bad mine wasn’t one of them.

    The good thing is the “microsoft magic box” is there wating to be packaged once and for all!

  • munzzzzzz

    what do you do in order to get the shipping box sent to you???? so that you can send in into MS

  • Pyotr Mannel

    You just need to call microsoft support. The phone number is (1-800-4-MY-XBOX).

    Be patient! everytime I call they hold me in the line for about 10-20min. to finally speak with a human being ^^. (That’s the service here for latin america.

    When they answer they’ll take you to some easy steps, like giving some information about your console and your location. After it’s completed the operator will give you a reference number if you have any doubts in the future about your status with xbox and a tracking number for UPS.

    The box should arrive in a week MAXIMUM. If not, demand to call a supervisor and tell it what happend and maybe he’ll give you something cool as apolygies for the bad service (Y).

    Tschüß!

  • richy rich

    there is another solution that worked for me about 5mins ago, i too had the 3 flashing red lights and this is what i did :
    the solution is that make sure the there is no disk in the drive, turn it on, when the red flashing lights appear put a disk in the drive and shut the drive, wait for it to read after about 6 seconds then turn off. When you turn it back on with the disk in the drive, it should then boot up

    worked for me 😀

  • Pyotr Mannel

    Wow =o! pretty simple solution. Because my xbox is still in repairs, i don’t have anything to prove it on. Anyways, good for you man! (Y)

    Is it still running ok?

  • Dan

    umm I tried that disk drive trick and it blew my hard drive and power supply, I dont recommend anyone do this. Only reason I did it was because I thought i’d give it a go before the microwave trick. 2 of my friends have done it and it worked but I was too scared so I tried this and now my drive is stuffed.

    Stick to the tried + proven microwave trick if u ask me.
    Dont need to open xbox as well so u still keep warranty

  • Teddy

    microsoft sucks

  • Teddy

    I told them about the microwave trick I did and the shits didnt believe me

  • Ok, lets put a rest to this issue once and for all.

    – Towel trick will damage other working components
    – Eraser trick has its merrits
    – applying new thermal paste and removing the this metal film on the heatsinks is the way to go.

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  • Sekide

    Its been almost two week since my 360 got fried, and since it my second one, I’ve been very adamant about getting it properly fixed. Though, at this point in time, I’m terribly desperate, and just about as pissed off as I could ever get.(I mean, the first one was five hundred dollars,U.S, the second one, the premium bundle, cost close to seven hundred).

    So, I’m gonna try this “Towel Fix”, if it doesn’t work, I’m gonna take take it to a friend of mine, to redo all the solder, and replace most of what has been indicated as the cause of error for the Xbox. All though now they should call it the F-Box, since its nothing but a massive failure.

    Honestly, the only reason I got the damned console was for Halo 3. (Yes, I’m an Halo addict, though now, I wish they brought it out on the playstation 3. Or i could probably sell the damned thing on the internet, and wait for the PC version of Halo 3.)

  • Teddy

    Sekide before you go opening the XBOX and voiding the warranty (Even if you dont have a warranty they can refuse to fix ur xbox even if u pay if you tampered with it), it might be worth considering the microwave trick.
    I have used it with success on a few different occasions, I believe you can find further details if u look at the last 20 or so posts on this thread.
    If you require any more assistance please let me know, I have tried all three methods and have got all 3 to work, albeit towel trick with limited success

    -Ted

  • ZantaxTheNerd

    Ok guys, there seems to be much debate over different methods of fixing an Xbox360, and whether or not they actually work. I’ve been doing my homework on each of the methods, and I intend to clear up the myth and rumor surrounding the subject.
    Firstly – the towel method.
    This is designed to not just OVERHEAT the unit, but to do it to the point where the dodgy connections melt back together. The fact, plain and simple, is that this usually works. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS METHOD, is that it doesn’t just overheat those particular connections, it overheats the whole unit and can damage parts which were previously working. Also, repeatedly using this method can melt the connections away completely so that they’re not connecting at all. I don’t recommend it.
    Secondly – installing extra fans
    This is an excellent idea, and if done correctly should work well. The problem is that most gamers can play the games, but wouldn’t know where to start with alterations and additions to their console.
    Thirdly – the scary microwave of death…
    Many people seem very skeptical of this method, and rightly so, BUT IT WORKS! It actually works better than the towel method, and this is why:
    Lets start with the basics. Microwaves are just like the light that we see but they’re much finer than visible light. You know how you feel the heat when you’re sitting in the sunlight? That heat comes from the molecules in your body absorbing the electro-magnetic waves which make up sunlight. Different molecules absorb different waves at different rates – basically some materials absorb almost all microwaves, others let almost all microwaves pass through without being absorbed.
    Ok, now that I’ve covered the basics, this is how it relates to YOUR XBOX360. Almost all plastics don’t absorb microwaves very well. The waves pass through having almost no effect. Metals are very good at absorbing microwaves, some are better than others. Because the solder tracks (which cause the rings of death problem) are the softest, most dense metal in the machine, they absorb the microwaves better than any other part of the machine, so they heat up the fastest. When these get to their melting point, no other part of the machine has absorbed enough energy to melt, so no other part of the machine has a chance to get damaged this way.
    I have even gotten my hands on some offending machines to test how long they need in different microwaves. For 1000Watt microwaves, 40-45 seconds. For 900Watt microwaves, 45-50 seconds. For 750-800Watt microwaves, 50-55 seconds. For 650-700Watt microwaves, 55-60 seconds.
    BEFORE TRYING THIS, read these 2 safety tips:
    If your first attempt hasn’t worked, wait AT LEAST HALF AN HOUR BEFORE TRYING AGAIN! The solder is also very good at getting rid of heat, so after a few minutes the solder will need the full amount of energy again to melt it. But the other parts give off heat much slower, and still contain most of their energy from the first attempt. So make sure the whole machine has been given enough time to cool.
    Next, make sure your Xbox360 is at least 1″ (25mm) from the sides and the top of your microwave. If you need to, use some plastic microwave safe dishes to hold you Xbox360 away from the sides. It’s a good idea to use a microwave without a turntable, or just take it out so that it doesn’t spin.

  • Lucas/Jason

    It just worked 4 us. We’ll see for how long..

  • Just my opinion but I think the towel trick is a stupid waste of time, sure it works however briefly. Just take the thing apart and reseat the heatsinks with proper thermal paste. Or you could get a Wii and never have these problems.

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  • Teddy

    Yeah its good idea Gadget Guru but bit risky..
    Anyway for what its worth my microwaved xbox is still going good – been over 2 weeks now

  • chad

    The fix does work cured mine right up no problems for 2 months now

  • Rory

    Well first off i dont feel like baking my freakin XBOX by wrapping in towels…so instead i suggest calling in the the Hotline at 1-800-4MY-XBOX its fast easy and they rock so yeah should have it repaied in no time at all.

  • Teddy

    THEY DO NOT ROCK THEY SUCK. I spent an hour on hold with them just to get a box sent to my house which took 5 days, now those idiots are saying that they haven’t received my xbox yet and are going to cancel it unless I call them back. So now I have to spend another hour on hold trying to get through to them. What a bunch of scum bags. VIVA LA PLAYSTATION 3!!!! MUERDE XBOX 360!!!

  • My friend has a xbox 360 modded and it worked fine for him for nearly a year. He rented madden 08 and it installed a update. Later, two days later, his system stopped working. Rings of death, error 0020. Is it possible for them to put a code in updates making a xbox that is modded to overwork itself until it can’t work anymore? It seems possible to me. The whole towel and microwave thing makes me think people are just putting this on here to mess with people and get them to mess it up even more so your forced to buy a new one and rethink modding your box. I tried to help him fix it but nothing works, and I don’t want to try a towel or microwave tricks, one of the first things your ever told is to never put metal in a microwave, I have personally seen a microwave break from something like this. So your out a microwave and a 360, and you can’t send it in because its modded. Are there any real solutions?

  • benny biceps

    3 FUCKING RED LIGHTS AGAIN!!!!Its been repaired 3 times by microshi!! and each repair lasts around 6 plays!! ive been on the phone and fucked microcash up and down!!! ive reported them to a consumer tv programe and have asked for a full refund of xbox purchase and warranty money!! fuck em! take my advice buy a playstation!!!! thats what im doing tomorrow!!! the wankers!!

  • Pyotr Mannel

    Hey Jason, I think he should take his chances by sending it to microsoft. My niece also had a 360 and happened something similar to what to said about the update thing making the RoD appear… So he tried the heat pistol, the towel trick and it just worked for several “HOURS”. So I told him the only chance he had to keep playing 360 without buying another console was to send it in to microsoft and take it chances. He call in, the process went normal all the way. Later he recieved a new xbox, not the one modded, (a BenQ which cannot be modded either), he is happy now and decided not to play with piracy for a while heheh.

    So my recomendation would be to take your chances if you consider your xbox is completly screwed. You got nothing to loose don’t you?

  • Jason

    Ok,
    Mannel I decided you’re right – I had nothin to lose, didn’t wanna risk microsoft sending a lawsuit up me though so I gritted my teeth and in the microwave it went, after some worrying moments and 40 seconds later I pulled it out.
    It did smell funny and I must say I was a bit worried. Let it cool down for 45 minutes and turned it on.. waited.. and its working now!
    Dunno what the hell Microsoft are thinking with microwave requiring Xbox? fuck em anyway. Its so far so good!
    Thanks whoever thought of this! (I dont wanna know how u thought of it in the first place lol)

    Jason.

  • Pyotr Mannel

    Wow! That’s one of the strangest things I’ve ever heard of =D. Pretty funny that a microwave can fix this kind of equipment. An act of desperation I guess who ever found this possible xD! The xbox should now include a free microwave (Y) xD (Y).

    Glad it worked (Y)

  • The Jason that posted the “I did the microwave trick” thing but it was not me. It wasn’t even my Xbox to begin with. He did try the towel trick and it worked for all of 2 minutes. Not even going to consider the microwave. Thats nuts. I don’t know if it was some other ya hoo posting on here trying to get people to believe in the microwave or if it was another poster from before.

  • I don’t know who posted about the micro-wave but it wasn’t me. The towel trick did work though, for all of five minutes. No way he is going to try the micro-wave, I asked though. whoever posted in my name was not me

  • Oops sorry ignore last two posts! Was meant for another website! But as I said before microwave trick is going strong so far!!!

  • Jenny

    Glad to hear its worked for you Jason! Can’t believe so many people have had such luck with the microwave trick. Im going to ask my dad if he can try it tonight (he doesnt have any problems with his xbox but better safe than sorry!) If he doesnt let me ill just do it without telling him hehe.

    For those unsure of the principles behind why the microwave trick works, ill repost Zantaxthenerds info!

    k guys, there seems to be much debate over different methods of fixing an Xbox360, and whether or not they actually work. I’ve been doing my homework on each of the methods, and I intend to clear up the myth and rumor surrounding the subject.
    Firstly – the towel method.
    This is designed to not just OVERHEAT the unit, but to do it to the point where the dodgy connections melt back together. The fact, plain and simple, is that this usually works. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS METHOD, is that it doesn’t just overheat those particular connections, it overheats the whole unit and can damage parts which were previously working. Also, repeatedly using this method can melt the connections away completely so that they’re not connecting at all. I don’t recommend it.
    Secondly – installing extra fans
    This is an excellent idea, and if done correctly should work well. The problem is that most gamers can play the games, but wouldn’t know where to start with alterations and additions to their console.
    Thirdly – the scary microwave of death…
    Many people seem very skeptical of this method, and rightly so, BUT IT WORKS! It actually works better than the towel method, and this is why:
    Lets start with the basics. Microwaves are just like the light that we see but they’re much finer than visible light. You know how you feel the heat when you’re sitting in the sunlight? That heat comes from the molecules in your body absorbing the electro-magnetic waves which make up sunlight. Different molecules absorb different waves at different rates – basically some materials absorb almost all microwaves, others let almost all microwaves pass through without being absorbed.
    Ok, now that I’ve covered the basics, this is how it relates to YOUR XBOX360. Almost all plastics don’t absorb microwaves very well. The waves pass through having almost no effect. Metals are very good at absorbing microwaves, some are better than others. Because the solder tracks (which cause the rings of death problem) are the softest, most dense metal in the machine, they absorb the microwaves better than any other part of the machine, so they heat up the fastest. When these get to their melting point, no other part of the machine has absorbed enough energy to melt, so no other part of the machine has a chance to get damaged this way.
    I have even gotten my hands on some offending machines to test how long they need in different microwaves. For 1000Watt microwaves, 40-45 seconds. For 900Watt microwaves, 45-50 seconds. For 750-800Watt microwaves, 50-55 seconds. For 650-700Watt microwaves, 55-60 seconds.
    BEFORE TRYING THIS, read these 2 safety tips:
    If your first attempt hasn’t worked, wait AT LEAST HALF AN HOUR BEFORE TRYING AGAIN! The solder is also very good at getting rid of heat, so after a few minutes the solder will need the full amount of energy again to melt it. But the other parts give off heat much slower, and still contain most of their energy from the first attempt. So make sure the whole machine has been given enough time to cool.
    Next, make sure your Xbox360 is at least 1″ (25mm) from the sides and the top of your microwave. If you need to, use some plastic microwave safe dishes to hold you Xbox360 away from the sides. It’s a good idea to use a microwave without a turntable, or just take it out so that it doesn’t spin.

  • hey you ficking bicthes if you want os to send our xbox 360 to get fix then you pay for it because that cost alat ok sow if youre not gono pay for it then shut you maouth of ok piss the fuck out.

  • Johnno

    What the hell you talking about you idiot? Some people like me dont like wasting money for postage when all microsoft do is put it in their microwaves probably lol.. Well thats all I did and mines working

    your momo bitch go keep sleeping with ur dad

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  • Teddy

    ***BEWARE SCAMMERS***

    Ignore the last two posts, they are the same person. They are asking for credit card info on the websites and once you enter in your info it comes up with an error. These websites have already been reported to the authorities.

    Stick with tried and proven microwave method. DONT lose your money to filthy scammers

  • Glenn

    Ok i just tried this towel trick it works and my 360 is working i think the 3 rings are because of a loose something i shook my 360 while it had the rings i heard something loose move after the towel trick i heard nothing still sending it in to be fixed hopefully box gets here soon im going to die if i dont get it by halo 3

  • Scottie

    I was just reading through all this to find a solution to my red rings. (I am currently waiting for it to cool down and if it doesn’t work it’s going in the microwave.)

    I just wanted to ask Jenny why she would put her dad’s Xbox in the microwave if there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

    Are you some kind of retard?

    P.S

    Holy shit!!

    The towel thing actually worked!!

    I only wrapped it up for ten minutes!!

    As this room is quite dark and I’m quite stoopid I accidentally did it UPSIDE DOWN!

    Maybe that actually helps?

  • Robert

    hi i purchased my xbox 360 in june of 2007,havent had no problems with it,was sitting in front of my smallish tv,and when i first got it,it blew alot of hot air out of the back end..but just a couple days ago..i started to play madden 08 purchased it a couple weeks ago..but didnt open it till 2 days ago cuz was getting rosters done for ncaa football 08 so i can imoprt draft classes..rather have names then numbers,but anywayz i tried putting madden in and all of sudden it went to white page and said this.

    To Play this Disc,Pit it in an Xbox 360 Console..

    game is brand spanking new,no scratches my basketball games worked great,my ncaa was working fine till now..also seems the air isnt really blowing out of the back no more..any suggestions on what happened??like did it blow somethin inside maybe??i threw away my receipt stupidly cleaning my apartment..if i can get it repaired or not?

  • cooperman32

    got 3 red lights today,got stressed wrapped in a towel left for 15 mins works fine,however i still have warranty,dosanyone know if shops will exchange if it is in working order?i called the game shop whilst it was in the towel and thy said bring it in and we will swap it but now itworks again will they still do it??

  • Jason L

    haha. i found this, some guy tried this crazy method:

    “i actually pre-heated my oven for about 3 minutes @ 350…put my whole motherboard in there..for about 7 to 8 minutes…took it out…let it cool down for a good 15 20 minutes…put everything back together and its worked fine for hours on end day after day since then….^_- lol but actually.. that can be a temp fix but in the long run ull end up frying ur gpu and or cpu…best bet is to reball the gpu cuz the solder they used was cheap enuff to have been made in mexico…no offense..”

    haha. using the oven, now thats defiently voiding your warrenty.

  • cooperman32

    Good news,left my 360 on for ages played cod4 on it then turned it off then on again the “ring of death” was alive again so took back to game store and am now in possession of an ELITE console hoooray!!!
    now just need that data transfer cable………..

  • Teddy

    Yeah I figured the oven would work if a microwave does but oven is much easier to cause damage to the various components by overheating them. Microwave is much safer because of the way it works it actually targets the solder tracks causing them to melt first, then u remove it before anything else is heated. Also in microwave u can put ur whole xbox in without taking out the mainboard – as soon as u open the cover u void ur warranty, in microwave there is no way they can tell u’ve put it in.

  • bobbob

    Not happy, got my 360 back from the repairers two weeks ago, got a new samsung Tv to celebrate after the first ring of death, got Fifa 2008 as well.

    Guess what, it’s not working again, fucking ring of fire.

    Not fucking happy, have called X-box support and have said that I will get a PS3 tomorrow, unless something is done TONIGHT.

  • harry

    yea this is my second xbox 360 now the 1st 1 chewed up my disc and destructed itself that was 2 weeks afta having it and now surprise suprise its cum up with 3 flashing lights its a p*ss take microsoft are no help atall there just t*ats luckely i still have the warranty so im taking it back and exchanging it 4 a 360 ellite or w.e it is and haveing a new 3 year warrenty to all those who’s warranty has expierd just take it back to where you got it from and play holy fuk with them

  • lee

    OMG THIS METHOD WORKS
    First off take the xbox 360 apart then locate the the front led’s
    Then disconnect all of the front led’s off the main board ,then turn on the system …….
    HOLY SHIT NO MORE RINGS OF DEATH 😛
    well its not a fix but it but it gets rid of the fucking ring lol 😛

  • gay

  • OMG

    If anyone’s gonna try this microwave trick be sure to have your best game DVD inside as well when you fry the console. lol.

  • Saqib Mahmood

    Crappy 360, i was going to sell it to gamestation on sunday and as if ms knew, i got the lights of death! i thought, aw crap what am i gonna do now, i cant afford without selling this sh*t!!(i am going to buy a ps3 u c). i thought that until i came across this trick, it works well now, i just hope it lasts until they take it in, but just in case i will do it again like an hour before taking it. funny thing is i have only had it for about a year, heavy play when i got it, after like 5 months very light if no play until about 3-4 days ago moderate play to make sure it is working. and it just went out of warranty like a few days ago. its as if ms has programmed them to display 3 red lights after a year…Stupid ms, i would choke them with my very hands if i could…

  • greens

    fuck me just read up a bit and you will see microsoft extending the waranty by two years fs ……

  • greens

    Funnily enough i was like you one day i went down stairs and booted the faithfall up and balah there was chequeded stars and flashes on the screen i turned it off turned it on 😛
    Nothing happened in a flash of brain dead crap i had a flash back to this website and microwave fix! and the 3 rings of death fuck this i thought you no what !im gonna fight back so i reserved a xbox 360 from argos and bought the new one a core box cleaned my old one up and took it back. i knew they did not have any in stock this microsoft co. they should provide a service they took our money and they wanted us to pay no way !>…………we dont want to pay three time in the next one year ps this thread is wank ….
    yer admin we are towns people
    Please dont put your xbox 360 in a microwave it wont melt the solder it will just fry your motors and cpu’s trust me its like a concentrated electric cut out inside the microwave would you put your ;laptops in it ?i rst my case ,..
    your stupid if you think it will work trust me.

  • Shawn Taylor

    “Please dont put your xbox 360 in a microwave it wont melt the solder it will just fry your motors and cpu’s trust me its like a concentrated electric cut out inside the microwave would you put your ;laptops in it ?i rst my case ,..
    your stupid if you think it will work trust me.”

    You ignorant ignorant little boy…
    You obviously have no idea on how microwave radiation works do you? Please do not insult yourself any further and do a search on google for how it works BEFORE you post this rubbish. Understandably many people are scared to try this because its quite unorthodox but it DOES work. I will not explain what others already have, if you read up you can see the scientific reasoning for why the SOLDER is TARGETED. What the hell is a “concentrated electric cut” – do you even speak English let alone know what a microwave is??

    I work at Games Wizards, have completed my PhD in radiation and electronics (am currently completing a third PhD hence my job lol) and am earning quite a bit of money from the microwave solution. You see many people are returning their xboxs for very low prices because they believe they are damaged with the 3 rings of death – I have microwaved them and a very high percentage (about 70% at least) function perfectly after performing this. I then re-sell at a much higher price.

    For any other ‘non believers’ I challenge you to come in and visit me at Games Wizards and see me work the microwave magic! I think we are the only Games Wizards store that keeps a microwave as a tool in the back lol!

    Shawno

  • Greens

    First off as a reply to the above post im not a silly little boy i am a 32 year old man and i certainly ain’t ignorant shawno
    yse i put my xbox 360 in the microwave only for 6 seconds guess what everything fried well all the motors did ie no tray opened and the wireless infra red diode clouded so i could not play it at all propperlly this was after just 6 seconds so as a person who has done the microwave trick i can report back it dont work big time it justs fuck’s up the xbox 360 more lucky for my argos took mine back and the result was i got a brand new one so unless you can prove yourself with a video i suggest you leave people to sort their xbox 360 out via the help line or if they have the balls to do it the argos way buying a xbox 360 then taking it back with the faulty one the next day ,
    shame on you for commeing out with this ballshit and i would like to comparison it with putting your laptop or your home pc into a microwave just to resolder parts…… what a load of bollocks please people don’t do it you have been warned !!!!!!!!!

  • Greens

    ps this is how a microwave oven works !!!!!!!
    read it you might learn something SHAWNO
    microwave ovens use various combinations of electrical circuits and mechanical devices to produce and control an output of microwave energy for heating and cooking. Generally speaking the systems of a microwave oven can be divided into two fundamental sections, the control section and the high-voltage section .

    The control section consists of a timer (electronic or electromechanical), a system to control or govern the power output, and various interlock and protection devices. The components in the high-voltage section serve to step up the house voltage to high voltage. The high voltage is then converted microwave energy.

    Basically, here is how it works: As shown in Figure 1, electricity from the wall outlet travels through the power cord and enters the microwave oven through a series of fuse and safety protection circuits. These circuits include various fuses and thermal protectors that are designed to deactivate the oven in the event of an electrical short or if an overheating condition occurs

    If all systems are normal, the electricity passes through to the interlock and timer circuits. When then oven door is closed, an electrical path is also established through a series of safety interlock switches . Setting the oven timer and starting a cook operation extends this voltage path to the control circuits .

    Generally, the control system includes either an electromechanical relay or an electronic switch called a triac as shown in Figure 2 . Sensing that all systems are “go,” the control circuit generates a signal that causes the relay or triac to activate, thereby producing a voltage path to the high-voltage transformer . By adjusting the on-off ratio of this activation signal, the control system can govern the application of voltage to the high-voltage transformer, thereby controlling the on-off ratio of the magnetron tube and therefore the output power of the microwave oven. Some models use a fast-acting power-control relay in the high-voltage circuit to control the output power.

    In the high-voltage section ( Figure 3 ), the high-voltage transformer along with a special diode and capacitor arrangement serve to increase the typical household voltage, of about 115 volts, to the shockingly high amount of approximately 3000 volts! While this powerful voltage would be quite unhealthy — even deadly — for humans, it is just what the magnetron tube needs to do its job — that is, to dynamically convert the high voltage in to undulating waves of electromagnetic cooking energy.

    The microwave energy is transmitted into a metal channel called a waveguide , which feeds the energy into the cooking area where it encounters the slowly revolving metal blades of the stirrer blade . Some models use a type of rotating antenna while others rotate the food through the waves of energy on a revolving carousel. In any case, the effect is to evenly disperse the microwave energy throughout all areas of the cooking compartment. Some waves go directly toward the food, others bounce off the metal walls and flooring; and, thanks to special metal screen, microwaves also reflect off the door. So, the microwave energy reaches all surfaces of the food from every direction.

    All microwave energy remains inside the cooking cavity. When the door is opened, or the timer reaches zero, the microwave energy stops–just as turning off a light switch stops the glow of the lamp

  • Greens

    THIS AIN’T JUST POP IN AND GO MICROSOFT HAVE NOT SPENT MILLIONS BUILDING THE XBOX 360 JUST TO PUT IT IN A FUCKING MICROWAVE WHEN ITS BROKE TO WORK AGAIN YOU STUPID TWAT BTW I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WORKS IN FAREHAM PORTSMOUTH WHERE THEY REPAIR THE SO CALLED FAULTY XBOX’S THREE RINGS OF DEATH ,AND GUESS WHAT HE PISSED HIS SELF WHEN I TOLD HIM THIS METHOD AND YES I GOT RIBBED AS WELL ,BUT WHAT HE SAID TO ME PISSES ALL OVER YOUR LIES ,A MICROWAVE DOES NOT JUST TARGET SOLDER IT TARGETS EVERYTHING EVEN PLASTIC TRY IT PUT A CD OR A PLASTIC FORK INTO A MICROWAVE OVEN FOR 45 SECS OR EVEN A TINY MOTOR THAT USES OIL TO LUBRICATE ITS INTERNAL SPINNING CORE …
    AND OF COURSE THE BEST BIT WHAT DO TINY AND BIG ELECTRIC MOTORS USE ???…. YOU’VE GUESSED IT MAGNETS TO DRIVE THE MOTORS ,AND WHAT DO MICROWAVES USE YEP GUESSED RIGHT A FUCK OF MAGNETRON TO SUCK ALL THE PARTICLE’S UP AND BLAST THEM OUT IN A VIBRATING MOTION TO HEAT YOUR FOOD AND NOT A FUCKING XBOX 360 YOU SILLY TWAT !!!
    LIKE I SAID DONT DO IT !!!!
    YOUVE BEEN WARNED !!!!!
    ps sorry for the caps shift i had a microwave on lol

  • Thanks for the good laugh Greens. 🙂 I dunno what goes on in some peoples brains.

  • Em

    My friend’s Xbox360 recently had the “ring of death” so he looked up on the internet tricks to fix it, he tried the towel trick, and it worked for 10 minutes. So he was nearly going to give up till he heard of the microwave trick. He tried it and now his 360 is working perfectly. So pretty much it has been proven that the microwave trick does work.

  • edge

    what kind of towle did u guys use my moui hawaii towle worked 🙂

  • edge

    3 red to 1 green in 5 min thank u who ever thaught this up

  • Jason H

    Well towle did not work heat gun did not work and earaser trick did not work. Not stupid enough to try the microwave as I know for sure that would fry the entire system. Guess I am off to buy a new one and return this broke one in that box..lol I hate X-box wish I would have just stuck with the PS3 it is twice the system anyway.

  • matt

    This method does work because i have just done it and it as work yipee i left a towel on my xbox for 10 mins and hay presto it worked

  • Jason H

    I DARE YOU TO STICK IT IN THE MICROWAVE IF ONLY FOR 15 SECOUNDS. IT WILL RUIN IT I PROMISE. I BET IT WOULD EVEN SMOKE.

  • Chazz

    Hello all i have read some interesting theories that you have all posted, i want to get a 360 but what you all have said makes me think twice. tbh i can’t be bothered with the hassle of an xbox braking down and me figuring out ways to get it working again. I just want a 360 the works with no problems. Is there such a 360 ??? (lol). Maybe i’ll get one see what its like and if it brakes i’ll just get rid of it and try to avoid microsoft consoles and stick with sony

  • tony from bolton

    never any problems with the ps3! ha to bill gates and his loyal xbox 360 buying bitches!

  • gibbo

    i have had enuff
    my xbox broke :@
    wich was bad enuff
    then i sent it into mircrosoft
    waited six weeks
    got it bak
    3 weeks later its broke again
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    pissing me off now

  • Chazz

    Well i still think xbox 360 has awsome games and graphics just a problem with keeping them alive, i may just stick with sony, i have a ps2 (slim line) thats had so many beatens, knocks and my son standing on it and it still has life and works just fine. X-BOX (microsoft) SORT OUT YOUR SYSTEMS

  • Shawn Taylor

    Ahhh… Greens, Greens, Greens. It sounds like your brain has been fried! Are you sure you didn’t accidently put your head in the microwave instead of the XBOX?

    FIRSTLY, the article you posted appears to have been plaguerised as you have not posted a link as to where you got the story from, nice work, illegally copied. But i’ll ignore this fact for now..

    You said;

    The microwave energy is transmitted into a metal channel called a waveguide , which feeds the energy into the cooking area where it encounters the slowly revolving metal blades of the stirrer blade . Some models use a type of rotating antenna while others rotate the food through the waves of energy on a revolving carousel. In any case, the effect is to evenly disperse the microwave energy throughout all areas of the cooking compartment. Some waves go directly toward the food, others bounce off the metal walls and flooring; and, thanks to special metal screen, microwaves also reflect off the door

    This, strictly speaking is correct, if not a very simplified explanation of how a microwave works. The actual energy source is derived from an ultra powerful electromagnetic device, electromagnetic radiation is attracted to metal objects – think of the radiation as millions of tiny ‘hot’ magnets – If there are no metal devices in the microwave they will flow through in the normal direction they are sent with the waveguide. *IF* however you introduce a metal object (such as solder) the vast majority of these magnets will be attracted to that object. Now if you place an xbox in the microwave guess what will be the easiest target – you guessed it – the solder tracks. The reason being is they are a ‘soft’ metal, softer than the metal used in other parts of the microwave (such as component leads). I won’t delve into this for now for readability sake, but it’s due to this fact that the solder is the first thing inside an xbox to heat up. Now don’t forget that there will still be about 10% of stray radiation that will pass through other objects (such as the plastic casing etc) however as the box will only be in the microwave for around 30 seconds, this will not be long enough for the plastic and other components to get hot enough to be damaged or destroyed. It’s also due to this fact that if the microwave doesn’t fix the xbox first go – you must wait at least 30 minutes for all heat to dissipate from other objects.

  • Shawn Taylor

    As for

    THIS AIN’T JUST POP IN AND GO MICROSOFT HAVE NOT SPENT MILLIONS BUILDING THE XBOX 360 JUST TO PUT IT IN A FUCKING MICROWAVE WHEN ITS BROKE TO WORK AGAIN YOU STUPID TWAT BTW I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WORKS IN FAREHAM PORTSMOUTH WHERE THEY REPAIR THE SO CALLED FAULTY XBOX’S THREE RINGS OF DEATH ,AND GUESS WHAT HE PISSED HIS SELF WHEN I TOLD HIM THIS METHOD AND YES I GOT RIBBED AS WELL ,BUT WHAT HE SAID TO ME PISSES ALL OVER YOUR LIES ,A MICROWAVE DOES NOT JUST TARGET SOLDER IT TARGETS EVERYTHING EVEN PLASTIC TRY IT PUT A CD OR A PLASTIC FORK INTO A MICROWAVE OVEN FOR 45 SECS OR EVEN A TINY MOTOR THAT USES OIL TO LUBRICATE ITS INTERNAL SPINNING CORE …

    Of course if you put a plastic object in the microwave it will melt and be damaged but read the explanation above to address this – IF you put something metal in the microwave as well, radiation will target that metal object leaving the CD/fork completely intact (try with a small peice of foil and a CD if you want – but be careful NOT to touch the foil afterwards).

    As for your comment about microsoft spending millions – this is laughable, are you saying because they spent lots of money there wont be problems? Guess what! The three rings of death isnt just a myth!
    The methods used to solder the BGA chips has been identified as a real issue, and the fact microsoft subcontracted out to dodgy companies in Asia for the pricing advantage they offered.

    By the way, motors don’t use oil to lubricate their cores you silly boy. There is no physical contact at all, they are insulated by air you fool.
    Please by all means have your friend try to explain himself – OF COURSE MICROSOFT WON’T ADMIT IT’S SUCH AN OBVIOUS SOLUTION – THEY ARE PAID TO FIX THESE CONSOLES – bit of a conflict of interest don’t you think?

    Wake up to yourself, and don’t bother posting crap which is obviously false about your ‘experiences’. Please try it before you post this rubbish again.

  • anonamus

    DO U SWITCH THE XBOX ON WHEN YOU WRAP IT IN TOWELS IF YES MY XBOX WONT SWITCH ON FOR SOME REASON DID THIS HAPPEN AFTER YOUR RED LIGHTS PROBLEM ???:(

  • Jason H

    yes it needs to be on as the heat build up is what temporaily fixes them. You have a diffrent problem all together. Sonds like you need a new unit.

  • anonamus

    hey you know what i fixed it without the towels trick take off the hard drive take out all the wires (memory cards, controllers) and blow into each hole on the 360 do it twice just to make sure or just put some where cold for a few hours/days it worked with mine and my cusions xbox 360’s !!!!! if it works say so on the comment please thx !!!!
    EMAIL ME OR INSTANT MESSAGE ME ON
    [email protected]

  • anonamus

    wtf the time now realy is 1:31 in england is this site amarican or sumthin’ ??

  • anonamus

    PM I MEAN 1:32 PM

  • Jenson

    Guys please stick with the topic.
    I would like to thank Shawn Taylor for his very informative addition to the forum. I too have used the microwave trick with great success so far

  • XboxSURFER27

    Thanks guys! Microwave trick worked a treat! (so far *knocks on wood*) well its only been a few hours but my xbox hasn’t been working for about 2 weeks so yah..
    Will keep you posted, PS if anyone interested in fiting ingame my name is XboxSURFER27
    CHEERS

  • Eeliops283

    Cheers Shawno! Was too freaked to try that trick out until I read that. Put my mind at ease and it works. You should post a youtube video maybe to show people it works?
    Would get rid of all the sceptics like that idiot Greens, or should I say ‘brain fried’ lol

  • ffh

    well shawn how the fuck do you do it then ??
    dont post shit on here if u cant back it up tell us how to fix it or piss of.

  • i did it an yup it work.. an the box is running just fine since … shall wait an see

  • Shawn Taylor

    ffh, please refrain from using derogotary language on this forum. If you would kindly take the time to READ the posts above mine you will find the method is quite simple – it really varies on the power of your microwave but if you put your xbox in for about 30-45 seconds that will in 90% of cases be sufficient to re-melt the solder into its tracks. If you power on your xbox after this and it still does not light up WAIT AT LEAST 20 MINUTES BEFORE TRYING AGAIN. If you do not do this you can damage certain components that do not rid themselves of heat quick enough. Any other questions please do not hesitate to ask, but please try reading!

  • anonamus

    HEY IS ANY 1 TRYIN MY IDEA ?? TAKE EVERY WIRE OUT AND TAKE OUT THE HARDDRIVE/MEMORY CARD AND BLOW INTO EVERY HOLE YOU CAN FIND ON THE 360 !!

  • Jenson

    anonamus thanks for your tip – this may well help if the 3 red light error you were particularly getting was related to dust clogging the fans etc (Not sure about Xbox but if a PC fan does not run it will not load up). For the majority however the microwave trick is probably the safest solution (don’t need to open the xbox and risk introducing static to components etc)
    Also when you open the xbox you void the warranty which can be avoided with the microwave trick

  • anonamus

    NO MYNE WASNT ON A DUSTY SURFACE IT WAS OVERHEATED BCUS I WAS PLAYING HALO 3 TOO MUCH !!! BUT THX 4 READING IT UR PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE WHOS ACTUALY READ MYNE

  • drummerman

    My problem is that I bought an xbox 360 off ebay (2nd hand and prob not my wisest choice in life 2nd to only meeting my now ex girlfriend lol) annnnyway I played on it for 40 min after it arrived and the 3 red lights appeared. I phoned microsoft and the last owner didn’t register it so they have to track the original owner before they can register me as the owner (hope you’re keeping up ha) They reconed they would phone me back by today which they haven’t so gunna chase the corporate monkeys up tomorrow .. annnyway I did the towel trick for 20 min and I’ve honestly been playing on my console non stop from 3pm to 1 pm so thats a pretty good hammering, whether it works tomorrow is a different matter .. Anyway my point is, has anyone bought a 2nd or 3rd hand 360 and still managed to send it back to microsoft for free ….. Cheers..

  • Dany

    Hi dummerman

    I bought mine second hand and yes they did accept it – in the end but only after alot of hassle – you can’t just ring them once and think thats it. I had made about 6 phone calls before they finall took it… When I got my replacement was all sweet until 6 months later and same f*cking problem.. Just tried the microwave trick about 1 month ago and its actually been fine since then ( I was too scared to at first and kept doing towel trick but that only works for afew days for me)
    heh in my opinion you’re prolly better off just doing the microwave trick man

  • drummerman

    Cheers Dany,

    Will poss try that as a last resort, or if, as you say they fix it but it goes again.. Will be on the blower again to them again today then.

  • anonamus

    XBOX 350 IS SOOOOO S**T I SWEAR ITS SOOO WEAK IT SUCKS GOD DAMB IT HEY DOES MICROSOFT STILL TAKE IN THOSE MESSED UP XBOX360’S AND TRADE OR WATEVA 4 A NEW ONE ???

  • anonamus

    ALL I TRIED TO DO WAS PLAY A GAME CALLED ‘JUST CAUSE’ THAT I RENTED FROM BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO AND MY XBOX JUST WENT KAPUT!!

    OMFG IT JUST FROZE ON THE SCREEN WHEN YOU START UP THE XBOX WHERE THE SILVER CIRCLE COMES UP WITH A GREEN ‘X’ ON ITAND IT JUST FROZE UP !

    MICROSOFT ARE IDOIOTS WHY MAKE A CONSOLE THAT HAS SO MANY TECHNICAL PROBLEMS.

  • anonamus

    THAT DIDNT WORK LOL

  • I removed that junk from your last comment anonamus.

  • anonamus
  • anonamus

    thx

  • anonamus

    HEY DO YOU KNOW ANY THING TYLER ?? ABOUT MY PROBLEM AND THE MICROSOFT FREE XBOX 360 REPAIR THING ??

  • All I know is I sent my Xbox 360 in for repair because it was still under warranty. Only thing I had to pay for was shipping the 360 to Texas for replacement, as I discussed in this other post.

    I can’t tell ya anything that hasn’t been said here before.

  • anonamus

    my microwave wattage is 850

  • Jenson

    anonamus – I’d try about 30 sec first just to be safe. Plug it in and if you’re still getting red lights DO NOT do the microwave trick again until at least 30 minutes later to allow all other components time to lose their heat.. Then you can up it to 35, try again and repeat, dont increment by more than 5 seconds at a time its just not worth it.

  • tracey

    hi letter regarding xbox warranty extension is at

    http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/support/petermooreletter.htm

    am assuming this will cover usa as well, also states all previous out of pocket expenses will be repaid

    good luck

  • anonamus

    cool o well AT THE END OF THE DAY THERES ALL WAYS THE PS3 !!

  • Jenson

    Yeah looks damn awesome + you get a free blue ray player with it!

  • I3ladeDragon

    People… DO NOT DO THE MICROWAVE TRICK!!! I placed mine in there out of desperation! (I had tried towel trick which allowed mine to live for another month, but then it wouldn’t work again. Plus I never had the warrantee)

    It had been in there 9 seconds before it started sparking and making buzzing noises. So I immediately stopped the microwave! My heart is still beating a million miles a second and I can still smell the burnt metal/plastic smell from the xbox. I plug it back in and turn on the power and… what’s this? IT DOESN’T EVEN TURN ON ANYMORE! You brought up good points Shawn and that’s what got me to try this… Where did I go wrong and how do you explain my plight?

  • I3ladeDragon

    Sorry for the double post, but I sent a formal letter to NBC Dateline like the top of the comments said only I added a link to this page telling them to look throught the comments at the wild things people are doing to fix their xboxes and microsofts lack of real support to its customers.

    I am just going to go to sleep now and get an elite in a couple of weeks… I’ve been stressing over a way to fix this for 5 hours now after getting off of a graveyard shift and it is 10:27am now.

  • Jenson

    I3ladeDragon:
    THE MICROWAVE TRICK IS EXACTLY THAT – A MICROWAVE TRICK! DO NOT PUT YOUR XBOX IN A CONVENTIONAL OVEN… OF COURSE THE PLASTIC WILL MELT..
    You can only use a microwave because the radiation targets the solder due to it being a ‘soft’ metal. No offense man but putting an xbox in an oven is just plain stupid…

    The only way you could possibly have an issue is if you have a pre-1980s microwave where the radiation works in a very different fashion to current models..

    Other than that I think you should stay away from knives, hard objects, and anything in life in general- YOU ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY AND YOURSELF lol man just kidding.

  • I3ladeDragon

    ahhh f*k you’re right… Im a damn idiot… I did put it in an oven i fkn read it wrong… omfg
    im freaking out now
    will microsoft take it back its a bit melted?
    I put it for 9 seconds only though but it was on the element and it was plugged in still. must be why it started sparking
    im a fool…

  • Ben Cossey

    hehe poor bladey, that’s why it’s important to REEAAD when you’re trying to do stuff. For everyones info I ready Shawnos statements and found it quite easy to follow. Got my cousins Xbox 360 working like a charm. I actually needed to put it in the microwave twice.. First time I did 20 seconds but I chickened out, then I waited 45 mins plugged it in and still red lights.. Microwave again but this time I did for 25 seconds and it worked.

    I personally thought it was f*kn obvious not to use a normal oven thats just plain stupid, OF COURSE THE THING WILL MELT YOU IDIOT…

  • Lawry ag-bitch

    Yeah man my xbox was f*kd for 2 months until I microwaved it and now it cool. I told my dad and he said I was stupid for trying it but I did it anyway when he went out and now its good.

  • Donald Flote

    Wow cool it worked for all u guys. I am thinking of trying it but there is nothing wrong with my xbox but just to make sure it doesnt get the 3 red lights do u think I should do it?

  • Col

    Hey, it seriously works, 10 minutes completely wrapped in a towel, switch it off for 10 mins and bam! it makes some mental noises, when I does start to get really loud and ya can hear the whining change pitch switch it off. On mine it took about 11 mins. Let it cool for another 10 and yeah perfecto so far. I think (possibly) that its due to the solder between the motherboard and the processors. Apparently the solder is of lesser quality and it tends to crack under the heat, but I guess what you’re doing is heating it till it melts ever so slightly to patch up the cracks. Dont know if this is true but its the most logical solution in my mind. At least it’ll last until they send the box out for me to send back.

  • Col

    oh and I agree DONT MICROWAVE YOUR XBOX!!! if anyone has done the cd in the microwave trick you’ll be aware that metal SPARKS in a microwave. This is bad!!! In every chip in your xbox there is tiny metal pieces, not only in the solder that goes from the chip to the board. You’ll fry every chip in your xbox. After microsoft have extended their warrentee to 3 years all over the globe it’s defo not worth voiding it by sticking it in a microwave. I’d like to give mythbusters a call to confirm this but i doubt they’d ever do it!

  • Ronson

    Col no offense but you are an absolute idiot. Do you know how to read? OF COURSE if you put something metallic in the microwave by itself it will spark etc.. Thats because it’s heating up.. Please little boy, do some READING and read above before you post such ignorant, retarded posts. Pay in particular attention to the posts by Shawn Taylor who explains how a microwave works and why the SOLDER is targeted due to it’s properties.

    What you have just said is like saying ‘If I fall from a 50m building, I will break my legs etc, so if I drop a feather from a 50m building it will also get broken’ – Sure if you ignore the facts and obvious differences in properties (like you have) it may seem true (to an absolute novice such as yourself), but if you read up you will realise that a feather is different material DUH!..

    Well i’m not gonna bother explaining the rest of this to you because you’re too stupid to read, but next time go post in the childs pen or something, that will be more suited to your obvious intellectual abilities (or should I say DISABILITIES)

    -Ronson

  • Col

    Ok so i’m thinking about giving it a go.. It actually makes sense now sorry for annoying u but u dont need to call me retarded. Just want to know will it actually spark or anything? What is risk of damaging components?

    I might check with my dad as well before doing it as he is an electrician. Only reason im considering this is a) doesn’t void warranty and b) towel trick stopped working

  • Billy Edmonds

    I am your hero

  • Paul Edmonds

    I like crisp 5 dollar bills!

  • Damien ‘BIG NOS’ Taylor

    I think I’m the shit, just look at me ya’ll. If it wasn’t for me none of you Punjabs would be trying the microwave. My friend Governor Lachlan Macquarie was a great advocate of this theory and now we can all thank him and myself for this wonderful solution. Peace out to my dawg Shawn, love ya bro.

  • mario

    ok the towel trick is only a temporary fix that should only be applied only after you have called in for repair.
    it will give you addicts about enough time to play while you’re waiting for the box.

    yet when you send it back in then it’s about a harsh 1-4 week wait

  • Damien ‘BIG NOS’ Taylor

    Well said Mario. The towel is a temporary fix and I will knock it for what it is. A quick, simple solution for people who are too scared to use radioactive technology for fear that their lungs will rot from the dreaded power of the boogeyman in the microwave!

  • Damien ‘BIG NOS’ Taylor

    However that being said, it does ‘usually’ provide a temporary fix for the surfer dudes who can whip out their beach towels with polycarbonate coating. But the problem is if you do not combine this with genuine Venice Beach brand carnauba wax the solder will not hold in place. Oh yes you can all see I have done my research. I even managed to fix an Xbox one day using a motor from an old 1986 Ronson electric shaver and placing that in a 1976 GE microwave that needed a replacement motor. This was one of the first steps to greatness I took to making the microwave fix available to you all.

  • Jiminy “Back the Glasses In” Cricket

    Partial credit Big NOS. Like I told you back in the day, we should have sourced a Braun electric, circa Feb to July 1986, as it had the superior lasting power under stress, as well as a superior spindle. But the Ronson did the job with the old faithful ’76 GE. I think grandpa Cossey would have wept tears of joy if he’d seen us work the magic with his microwave. May we say god save Grandpa Cossey, because nothing will save the Rock-climbing Grandson!

  • Col

    Ok I dont know what you guys are talking about but my dad agreed to try the microwave trick ‘at my expense’. FYI: I have a Sanyo 1000watt microwave model SNY1000-D3. We put it in for 5 seconds and it was a bit noisy so I took it out. I tried it out and it still had the 3 red lights, so I left it off for 30 minutes as advised then put it in microwave for 15sec, I was pretty worried but let it go because I can’t be stuffed waiting for stupid warranty box to arrive (was supposed to arrive 3 days ago) + this doesn’t void it because you don’t need to open the xbox.. Anyway I thought ‘this aint gonna work its stupid’ but I turned it on and.. Lights stayed green!!! I dunno wtf fixed it I guess it really is the solder must not be solid connection but just that little bit of time in microwave is enough to re-flow it. Im so happy now! Thank you guys especially Shawno!

    Will keep you posted on my replacement anyway

    Col

  • Jordan

    A lot of people are saying this is bullshit, but I saw that video on youtube today and tried it. My xbox 360 had been dead for about a month. It worked.

  • Shawn Taylor

    That’s right Jordan,
    I can understand why alot of people don’t think it would work, but it’s frustrating for me trying to explain to some over and over again the scientific reasoning behind the microwave trick! Anyway if you’re interested scroll up a bit and read my last few posts. These should take the wonder out of the microwave!

    Shawno

  • Bonez97

    wow I came here after seeing the microwave video in action on youtube. I can’t believe it works! Got my xbox working in 35 seconds after 2 weeks of stupid red lights
    Shawno you are the king!

  • Dany

    Wow Shawn how do you know so much
    I read all of your info its great
    put my mind at ease and got my xbox working with microwave trick
    this is the post that got me convinced!

    Ahhh… Greens, Greens, Greens. It sounds like your brain has been fried! Are you sure you didn’t accidently put your head in the microwave instead of the XBOX?

    FIRSTLY, the article you posted appears to have been plaguerised as you have not posted a link as to where you got the story from, nice work, illegally copied. But i’ll ignore this fact for now..

    You said;

    The microwave energy is transmitted into a metal channel called a waveguide , which feeds the energy into the cooking area where it encounters the slowly revolving metal blades of the stirrer blade . Some models use a type of rotating antenna while others rotate the food through the waves of energy on a revolving carousel. In any case, the effect is to evenly disperse the microwave energy throughout all areas of the cooking compartment. Some waves go directly toward the food, others bounce off the metal walls and flooring; and, thanks to special metal screen, microwaves also reflect off the door

    This, strictly speaking is correct, if not a very simplified explanation of how a microwave works. The actual energy source is derived from an ultra powerful electromagnetic device, electromagnetic radiation is attracted to metal objects – think of the radiation as millions of tiny ‘hot’ magnets – If there are no metal devices in the microwave they will flow through in the normal direction they are sent with the waveguide. *IF* however you introduce a metal object (such as solder) the vast majority of these magnets will be attracted to that object. Now if you place an xbox in the microwave guess what will be the easiest target – you guessed it – the solder tracks. The reason being is they are a ’soft’ metal, softer than the metal used in other parts of the microwave (such as component leads). I won’t delve into this for now for readability sake, but it’s due to this fact that the solder is the first thing inside an xbox to heat up. Now don’t forget that there will still be about 10% of stray radiation that will pass through other objects (such as the plastic casing etc) however as the box will only be in the microwave for around 30 seconds, this will not be long enough for the plastic and other components to get hot enough to be damaged or destroyed. It’s also due to this fact that if the microwave doesn’t fix the xbox first go – you must wait at least 30 minutes for all heat to dissipate from other objects.

    Thanks alot for your info matey!!

  • Hi there dudes if you wanna know how to fix an xbox 360 by yourself check out my website xbox 360 repair

  • Dany

    P Kaa you stupid scammer. Why would someone wanna PAY for your book ‘how to fix your xbox using electromagnetic radiation’ you idiot… What does it say? ‘put in microwave for 20 seconds, I swear I thought of this myself’.. If Shawno had money he would sue your ass for stealing his idea you moron…

  • Well ok I admit its a dirty scam but hey I made $50 from it 😀 yes I stole the idea of Shawn, but I never told the customers and they’re happy because their xbox is working with the help of a microwave.

  • Bonez97

    You should be ashamed of yourself P Kaa.. I thought it was something else besides the microwave trick. You should give that money to Shawno, I have got 3 xboxs to work with that so far, Shawno you should sell your idea maybe or start a new company to fix them lol?

  • LoBo

    Wow awesome I saw the microwave video on youtube and it pointed to this site so i thought i’d give it a go and my Xbox is all go now! Can’t believe this – Thanks Shawno

  • G_Dub

    are you kidding me? DON’T put your 360 in the microwave…send it in to get fixed, buy another one and put the broken one in the box and return it, or fix it yourself (there are many online tutorials). my first one broke 29 days after i bought it, i took it back to the store and got a new one. i bought after market fans – replacement ones for the stock plus an extra internal fan. (http://www.llama.com/) its runs nice and cool now, i don’t even worry about voiding the warranty. even the towel trick is bad for the components inside your 360, it overheats them and warps the circuit board back into place… it might work for a while, but will eventually cook all the electronic components inside your 360. and as for the microwave, that must be a joke! you can’t put metal inside a microwave and expect to fix expensive electronics. try to put some tinfoil or a fork inside and see what happens. you might have a chance of melting the faulty solder back in place, but you might burn your house down and ruin a $400 dollar circuit board.

  • Shawn Taylor

    Oh my god… Yet another newbie.
    G-Dub go to school and learn how to read.
    I have explained this multiple times but you must have autism or something because you obviously can’t comprehend something that has been written about 5 times.
    OF COURSE if you put tinfoil or a fork in the microwave by itself the electromagnetic radiation will be attracted to it and go crazy – BUT (please read my above posts) – TO PROVE MY POINT – if you put some solder in with a fork/foil etc guess what? VIRTUALLY NO SPARKS – all that will happen is the solder will melt. This is because of the chemical composition of solder the electromagnetic radiation is specifically attracted to that MORE than the fork. We aren’t talking about putting your xbox in the microwave for hours here buddy – it only takes approx 30 seconds. Thats is NOT enough time for any components to be damaged, as 90% of the radiation will directly affect the solder. IF however it is not succesful on the first round you do need to wait at least 30 minutes for the rest of the components to cool down – because you need to remember there will be roughly 10% stray radiation that will slightly heat other components but I can guarantee it won’t damage them in 30 seconds. If you don’t believe me just read all the other people who have had success with it. Or even come to my store and I will prove to you the microwave trick works in person.. But please you pathetic people – dont go around saying ‘oh it doesnt work because my dad said it wouldnt’ – try doing some of your own research and you will realise why it works.

    Maybe you should call yourself G-NUB?

    Anyway im out

    Shawno

  • G_Dub

    all i’m saying is there are better ways than putting electronics in microwaves. ps i’m almost 30 and have a son

  • G_Dub

    i thought about what shawno said, and decided to take him up on his offer, just to make sure i wasn’t missing anything. i took and old pentium motherboard and stuffed it in my 750w sylvannia microwave to see what would happen. it was in there for 5secs, a giant electric charge danced over the board, and a capacitor sparked and melted. i took it out after it cooled, and saw in addition to the capacitor melting, a small transistor and resistor melted as well, burning the board and rendering it useless. so i say again, don’t put your 360 in the microwave unless you want to see a cool light show and never play again.

  • LoBo

    I don’t know what you did wrong with that mainboard but you either a) put it in for longer then 1-2 minutes or b) are lying.
    I know because I did it and fixed my xbox and it was for 35 seconds.. Why would it only fry 1 capacitor also, a mainboard has many capacitors. Let me guess, you are an employee for one of the companies that fixes these xboxs? Get out of here, let the public have access to knowledge that will save them time and money

  • Danny

    lol @ g-nub.. Ok I almost believed you there until you said 1 capacitor, 1 transistor and 1 resistor melted. First of all capacitors don’t melt, they blow up – wether it’s from heat, electricity or electromagnetic radiation. I know this because I studied electronics for 6 years and yes we did try all the stupid things. Resistors also CANNOT melt they are made of ceramics you silly boy lol.
    If you are going to lie at least TRY and make it credible. Most people on this thread have tried the microwave trick and know it works so you are just showing how stupid you are really…
    Anyway cyas later

  • G_Dub

    i’ll send you a pic if you want, why would i lie? i did notice that the part of the board that cooked had a paper sticker on the bottom, i don’t know if that had anything to do with it, and the capacitor popped off (top half) i don’t work for an electronics store, and i am a newbie when it comes to putting expensive electronics in the microwave. but you paid m$ your hard earned cash from your name tag job to buy a 360, so what you do with it is your own business. if anyone wants to see pics, post your e-mail address, maybe i’ll post on you-tube if i get bored.

  • Wozz
  • G_Dub

    here ya go dipsh*t… this guy just wants you to ruin your 360, theres no way hes serious. this is probably some punk kid with alot of time writing all these posts…so again, for the last time, don’t put your 360 in the microwave!!

    ps couldn’t find a youtube video “microwave trick” why don’t you post the link? heres mine, i know you were f-in with me but i had fun making this anyway

  • Wozz

    why u calling me a dips**t? You are just trying to make people waste their time. You do work for microsoft like the other guy said I bet. You are silly, Shawn said if you put it in once wait AT LEAST 40 minutes before putting it in again and u waited like 2 seconds, you must have pre-heated it in the microwave before u took that video we arent stupid

  • G_Dub

    Yeah so what if I did pre-heat it in the microwave? It doesnt matter because I only pre-heated it for 3 minutes so that wouldnt make a difference.

    I do work as a repairer for microsoft but I dont see how that makes any difference either.

  • LoBo

    omg 3 minutes pre-heat before u made the video? you idiot, THATS WHY THE COMPONENTS OVERHEATED. IF YOU READ SHAWNS POST YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IF YOU PUT IT IN ONCE U NEED TO LET IT COOL DOWN FOR 40 MINUTES AND U NEVER HEAT IT FOR MORE THAN 45 SECONDS

    Go away and get s*king on bill gates dick, arsewipe.

  • G_Dub

    Oh I didnt read that part before about letting it cool down for 45 mins.. sorry guys. IGNORE MY LAST FEW POSTS hehe

    hmm in that case maybe I should give it a go on my xbox

  • LoBo

    Yeah, maybe u should… spammer

  • G_Dub

    wel i’ll be f*kd.. omg I cant believe it actually worked. I put it in for 15 seconds and I knew it wouldnt work because i thought it would stuff it. I didnt pre-heat it or anything and it f*king worked

    wtf
    wtf

  • Shawn Taylor

    Well that’ll learn ya! Idiot
    I did only tell you to read it PROPERLY about 10 times
    as I know for a fact that it works…

  • sabr5

    I am here to tell you the Towel Method is a bandaide.. I just finished trying it after my xb first started freezing and then it game me the red rings of death and now it is back running for now

  • Danny

    yeah thats right, towel method does not heat the solder sufficiently to be permanent fix. Microwave radiation does target the solder directly so that’s why its a permanent fix. If you dont know how to do it shawn has posted plenty of info above

  • G_Dub

    lol….i don’t think they’ll believe i wrote that (its funny though), and theres no such thing as a “repairer”, i think you meant technician. its even funnier that you actually got people to do this, so i’ve said what i have to say, and i’m out.

  • G_Dub

    but then again.. even if they don’t believe I wrote that I dont care because my xbox is working. Even all my friends think its funny too. Microwave trick for the win! ok now this is really my last post…

    IM OUT FOR REAL, CYAS AND GOOD LUCK WITH MICROWAVE FOR THE WIN

  • DUSTY

    wouldnt that ruin the xbox or microwave?

  • Jae

    3 Questions?

    1) How long do I put my 360 in for if I have a 1100 watt microwave?

    2) What power level should the microwave be at? (Hi, Med, Lo)

    3) Would it matter if the 360 had an internal water cooling system in it?

    THANXXX!!!

  • Shawn Taylor

    *sigh*
    ok I’ve posted before about 5 times why it works, and you dont need to take my word as about 30 people on this forum have got it working alone so I don’t care if you believe me or not.

    1100 watt microwave I would not put it longer than 20 seconds, if it doesnt work the first time WAIT AT LEAST 40 MINUTES before trying again, if you do not wait that long, don’t come back here crying that it wrecked your 360. Leave it on high, though I havn’t experimented with different settings, high has worked fine every time, just the times you leave it in needs adjusting.
    As for the internal water cooling I would take that system out, im not sure how much water is in it but unfortunately water is almost as good as solder as attracting heat so it would be too risky to try, I wouldnt do it if I were you.

    I have reposted an old post that I wrote to someone else below, alot of it is relevant but not all

    Ahhh… Greens, Greens, Greens. It sounds like your brain has been fried! Are you sure you didn’t accidently put your head in the microwave instead of the XBOX?

    FIRSTLY, the article you posted appears to have been plaguerised as you have not posted a link as to where you got the story from, nice work, illegally copied. But i’ll ignore this fact for now..

    You said;

    The microwave energy is transmitted into a metal channel called a waveguide , which feeds the energy into the cooking area where it encounters the slowly revolving metal blades of the stirrer blade . Some models use a type of rotating antenna while others rotate the food through the waves of energy on a revolving carousel. In any case, the effect is to evenly disperse the microwave energy throughout all areas of the cooking compartment. Some waves go directly toward the food, others bounce off the metal walls and flooring; and, thanks to special metal screen, microwaves also reflect off the door

    This, strictly speaking is correct, if not a very simplified explanation of how a microwave works. The actual energy source is derived from an ultra powerful electromagnetic device, electromagnetic radiation is attracted to metal objects – think of the radiation as millions of tiny ‘hot’ magnets – If there are no metal devices in the microwave they will flow through in the normal direction they are sent with the waveguide. *IF* however you introduce a metal object (such as solder) the vast majority of these magnets will be attracted to that object. Now if you place an xbox in the microwave guess what will be the easiest target – you guessed it – the solder tracks. The reason being is they are a ’soft’ metal, softer than the metal used in other parts of the microwave (such as component leads). I won’t delve into this for now for readability sake, but it’s due to this fact that the solder is the first thing inside an xbox to heat up. Now don’t forget that there will still be about 10% of stray radiation that will pass through other objects (such as the plastic casing etc) however as the box will only be in the microwave for around 30 seconds, this will not be long enough for the plastic and other components to get hot enough to be damaged or destroyed. It’s also due to this fact that if the microwave doesn’t fix the xbox first go – you must wait at least 30 minutes for all heat to dissipate from other objects.

    -Shawno

  • OMG MY XB0X0RZ TREE SICKY IZ DED!!!

  • SaneDane

    too many drugs for you lad?

    By the way thanks for microwave trick got me going again! I hope it really is permanent or i’ll be pissed at you shawn 😀

  • roflmao. I HAD to post this, after reading all this crap. I had nothing to loose. My box displays 3 red lights and doesn’t even attempt to start no matter what I do I get no screen. I tried unplugging it. I took it completely apart. I hit it with like tons of air from my giant compressor to clean it, nothing.

    I got it to turn on twice after having red lights. Like it would just come on for no apparent reason and work perfectly! But then after turning it off it just stopped working again???? So this time it hadn’t come back on in like a week.

    The first time I read about the towel trick I thought it was just a joke. But eventually, I got desperate.

    I left my xbox 360 in two towels for about 30 minutes. Went and smoked a bowl. Let it cool for about 10 minutes. Came back, And guess what, IT STARTED! lol, sounds freaking hilarious but it accually works! How long it will work who knows. but nice none the less. But all I know is I’m putting a huge fan right next to it so hopefully it won’t break again. And I’m never going to turn it off either because it might not come back on…. 🙂

  • omg then i realized i didnt have my hard drive in and I put that in. And then I got 3 red lights again wtf …

  • SaneDane

    hehe yeah brother, so far the microwave trick seems to be the only permanent solution. Towel is only temporary sorry man

  • Anyone who is contemplating trying the so-called “microwave” trick should scratch that idea. It’s far more likely to cause major damage to your Xbox 360 than it is to fix anything. And, now that there’s a 3 year warranty for Xbox 360 consoles, you might as well take advantage of that and have it replaced or repaired in the correct way.

  • Cunning Edmonds

    Microwave forever. 7337 😀

  • JOP

    Is this microwave thing for real? I was close to being convinced that it will fix my 360…so i tried it on an old Dreamcast thinking it is also made of the same components. After 5 seconds it spewed smoke…pulled it out and can smell burnt electronic parts. I checked to see if it will still turn on — sad to say it fryed my DC. Why will this microwave thing not fry a 360 when it did my DC?

    Do you guys know of a link to a video showing this microwave fix?

    Thanks!

  • JOP, don’t try it. If it fried your Dreamcast, it’ll fry your Xbox 360. It’ll also fry every other piece of electronics you put in it, even your alarm clock.

  • JOP

    I appreciate the advice Tyler!

  • FLotE – d. LEET

    For anyone curious how the microwave trick works I have reposted shawns information on how to do it.

    It basically works because the solder is the ‘softest’ metal on any PCB so the electromagnet radiation targets this.
    Please see below for full details

    *sigh*
    ok I’ve posted before about 5 times why it works, and you dont need to take my word as about 30 people on this forum have got it working alone so I don’t care if you believe me or not.

    1100 watt microwave I would not put it longer than 20 seconds, if it doesnt work the first time WAIT AT LEAST 40 MINUTES before trying again, if you do not wait that long, don’t come back here crying that it wrecked your 360. Leave it on high, though I havn’t experimented with different settings, high has worked fine every time, just the times you leave it in needs adjusting.
    As for the internal water cooling I would take that system out, im not sure how much water is in it but unfortunately water is almost as good as solder as attracting heat so it would be too risky to try, I wouldnt do it if I were you.

    I have reposted an old post that I wrote to someone else below, alot of it is relevant but not all

    Ahhh… Greens, Greens, Greens. It sounds like your brain has been fried! Are you sure you didn’t accidently put your head in the microwave instead of the XBOX?

    FIRSTLY, the article you posted appears to have been plaguerised as you have not posted a link as to where you got the story from, nice work, illegally copied. But i’ll ignore this fact for now..

    You said;

    The microwave energy is transmitted into a metal channel called a waveguide , which feeds the energy into the cooking area where it encounters the slowly revolving metal blades of the stirrer blade . Some models use a type of rotating antenna while others rotate the food through the waves of energy on a revolving carousel. In any case, the effect is to evenly disperse the microwave energy throughout all areas of the cooking compartment. Some waves go directly toward the food, others bounce off the metal walls and flooring; and, thanks to special metal screen, microwaves also reflect off the door

    This, strictly speaking is correct, if not a very simplified explanation of how a microwave works. The actual energy source is derived from an ultra powerful electromagnetic device, electromagnetic radiation is attracted to metal objects – think of the radiation as millions of tiny ‘hot’ magnets – If there are no metal devices in the microwave they will flow through in the normal direction they are sent with the waveguide. *IF* however you introduce a metal object (such as solder) the vast majority of these magnets will be attracted to that object. Now if you place an xbox in the microwave guess what will be the easiest target – you guessed it – the solder tracks. The reason being is they are a ’soft’ metal, softer than the metal used in other parts of the microwave (such as component leads). I won’t delve into this for now for readability sake, but it’s due to this fact that the solder is the first thing inside an xbox to heat up. Now don’t forget that there will still be about 10% of stray radiation that will pass through other objects (such as the plastic casing etc) however as the box will only be in the microwave for around 30 seconds, this will not be long enough for the plastic and other components to get hot enough to be damaged or destroyed. It’s also due to this fact that if the microwave doesn’t fix the xbox first go – you must wait at least 30 minutes for all heat to dissipate from other objects.

    -Shawno

  • FLotE – d. LEET: Please, don’t post this Microwave shit anymore. It’s just simply a bad idea.

  • Tommo

    Hey Tyler it actually worked on my xbox? I have no warranty and couldn’t afford to pay m$ (got it off ebay). I had nothing to lose really and towel trick didn’t work. U shouldn’t be so quick to judge until you understand how it works in my opinion – if you read shawnos reasoning it actually does make sense.

    Regards Tommo

  • Tommo, FLotE – d. LEET, whatever you want to call yourself, microwaving the thing simply isn’t a good idea, anyone with any knowledge of electrical components will tell you that.

    You say you’ve done it but offer no proof. I need proof. Hell, show me a video of anyone microwaving their Xbox 360 and actually fixing it. I sure can’t find a video of it.

    Have a look at how a PS2 looks after it comes out of a microwave:


  • Tommo

    Well I dont care if you dont believe me because heaps of other people have done it and it worked for them. Shawn said he even works in a shop and does it to get them working so I cant see how thats not proof?
    Some people are just skeptics and thats fair enough, but don’t go saying it doesn’t work when Shawn has the electrical background and explanation already up.

    As for that PS2 in microwave, thats just funny. He obviously put it in for alot longer than 30 seconds because they clip the video. It would take about 3 minutes to do that but Shawn has warned like 10 times not to so anyone who does that is just stupid.

    You only do it for 30 seconds which isnt enough to damage any components, only to melt the solder because of its properties attract the electromagnetic radiation.. If you don’t believe it u can try it with any old circuit board etc ONLY for 30 secs and then you’ll believe us.

  • Riot

    Towel trick has worked twice for me. Died again today though. Hoping I can get one more revive.

    Its sad people dont think it works. I didnt think it would either. But alas. it worked.

  • Riot

    FYI: microwave trick just worked for me!
    Its only been an hour but will keep you updated

  • Shawn Taylor

    Kudos to you Riot
    Lets show this Tyler guy he’s an idiot!

  • justin brown

    i had the red 3 lights on my 360….. i wrapped a towel around it for 20 mins with 360 turned on. after 20 mins i turned off my 360 & turned it back on………..no more 3 red lights dont know how it works but now it works fine

  • justin brown

    u may laugh but it worked

  • Riot #2, AKA Shawn Taylor: I’m the admin of this site. I see you posting under various usernames trying to get people to think the microwave trick works. You see, an IP address is associated with every comment. Your IP address keeps coming up with various names.

    Even if IP’s weren’t logged, you still enter the same email address every time, so I know you’re masquerading as multiple people.

    Now, before I ban your IP, I’ll give you a chance to stop the games and come clean. It’s up to you, stop with the Microwave stuff or you’re done. If you want, I’ll provide a screenshot proving you’re posting as multiple people.

    Asshat.

  • mike

    hey tyler, i think you should post his ip

  • Riot

    For everyone out there, mike IS Tyler but pretending to be someone else. And yes Tyler, if i’m really Shawno I personally would LOVE to see some ‘proof’..

    PS I dont see why you have a problem with the microwave trick

  • mike

    if i was tyler, i would have your ip. if i had your ip, your cpu would not be functional to make any more posts, or boot.

  • Riot

    Oh yeah, i’m sure everyone will believe you that you’re not Tyler.. Idiot.
    Oh i’m sure you can physically damage my CPU with an IP, how terrified I am! You are an absolute fool you silly little boy.
    I think you AKA Tyler should go back and keep on working for Microsoft. It’s obvious you do, hence why you’re trying to discourage people from utilising a method that has been proven as working. First you created this whole thing saying the towel trick is total crap, then when 50 people say ‘hang on a minute, it does work’ you try to tell them it doesn’t… Now that the microwave trick has been proven it’s all ‘dont do that everyone, it wont work its impossible even tho I have no idea how a microwave works’

    Let me guess, Microsoft is paying you $50 for every post you make trying to disprove these methods? So that way people have to pay them to fix their xboxs when their warranty runs out?

    You are scum as far as i’m concerned. But don’t worry, i’m sure karma will come and bite you on the a$$ one of these days. Go ahead, ban me from these forums, but you can’t ban everyone. As for Microsoft: You are the lowest form of life, money isn’t everything (even though Tyler aka mike thinks it is)

  • Riot, I can assure you, mike and I are two totally different people. Also, try searching this site, you’ll see I’m no fan of Microsoft, let alone, an employee.

    In my post at the top of this page, I said “The “Towel Trick” is bunk, total crap. You’re more likely to set your Xbox 360 on fire by doing this rather than fixing it.” That may not totally be true, becuase I have personally seen the towel trick work for a few people. However, I’ve also seen it not work for many more people.

    Now, Riot (Shawn Taylor), here’s your proof that Mike and I are two different people. Click the image below to make it bigger.

    Proof

    IP addresses, host names, and email addresses of innocent bystanders have been removed from that image. Mike, sorry for posting your IP, but I gotta offer this asshat some proof. Email me via the Contact Page if you would like me to remove your IP.

    Anyway, Riot, you see there that Mike and I have two different IP addresses. And, if I’m not mistaken, that IP shown there for Mike is an anonymous Tor proxy, so, yah.

  • Mike

    you are correct about tor…merry xmas to me, 5 open ports, thanks tyler…i feel kinda bad for what i’m about to do though, its probably his parents cpu

  • Mike

    shawno, how are things in queensland? maybe you can microwave your cpu to fix it…lmao

    have fun fixing that, merry xmas ya dumb aussie

  • No problem Mike, have fun with him.

  • Mike

    ps that was a warning, shawno, no accident why it didn’t work. you know what i’m talking about. you keep screwing around here and i will ruin your cpu next time. you’ve been warned, stop f-in around

  • Shawn Taylor

    Listen fools, I’m the real STaylor!
    We can’t let these fools spoil my good name!
    From now on they should be known as Mr. Whippy and Mr. Horsee.

  • Good to see you’re still around real Shawn Taylor. Don’t worry, everyone knows this little prick is riding on your name. It’s OK though, cuz I’ll be flagging all his comments as spam from now on, now that the record is straight.

    Mr. Whippy, your IP has been blacklisted.

  • Liam

    Hey guys whats the problem? I dont care if Tyler is Mike and he works for microsoft.. I tried the microwave trick but only for 6 seconds and it seems to have worked? I was going to give it to my friend because I bought a PS3 and I didn’t care about it but the microwave trick did work for me?

  • Sam27

    Hey Tyler I know he is being a nuisance but I don’t think that guy is completely lying Mr whippy or whatever. Because I did the microwave trick about 2 months ago when I first read this and have been following this forum for a while and it worked for me and it looks like a few others?

    I think Shawn Taylors explanation of why it works might actually be true..

    Just my 2cents

  • tye

    THE TOWEL TRICK WORKS! I don’t know how or even why it works but it does. I think my Red Lights of Death started on my Xbox 360 when my 12 year old unplugged then reconnected a brand new Guitar Hero III on Christmas morning without powering down first. I cannot describe the horror I felt when the Red Lights started flashing before we’d played even one note on the guitar. I read about the “Towel Trick” on this forum tried it and it worked. I wrapped a towel around the 360 while it was on for 30 minutes, let it cool for 10 minutes and

  • tye

    As I was saying about the Towel Trick before I accidentally hit send…I wrapped a towel around the 360 while it was running for 30 minutes, let it cool down for 10 minutes and

  • tye

    Also, my Dance Dance Revolution that had not worked for a couple of months, works after the Towel Trick! Go figure!

  • BonesCRUSHER

    Hey tye,
    I too had the towel trick do wierd things I never could play Halo3 even though I just bought it then I got the 3 rings. After the towel trick it actually worked but after an hour it stopped. I kept doing it for a week and got angry.. Was gonna throw it out anyway but tried the microwave trick as last resort (after forking out $800 for a PS3 from frustration).. Lo and behold – Microwave trick got it working for 3 weeks now, and all games work fine!

    SHAWNO IS KING!! lol
    No one believes me either

  • JOP

    Then please…can somebody provide a video to show as proof! I tried it on my old Dreamcast and it got fried in about 5 seconds. To end this thing and if it was true to help people who pay honest money for their 360…show proof!

    Otherwise, I can just say this….”I put my 360 in the tub for about 10 seconds and it fixed the darn thing, really, believe me — it works!”

  • JimZ

    JOP i’m not sure how to make a video on the internet. I have an LG mobile phone and I recorded the video but I can’t send it to the PC. I have a bluetooth but it keeps saying disconnected when I try to transfer it. Is there another way to send it to you?

    I used microwave trick twice so far (on my friends as well after he said he will kill me).
    I dont know why your dreamcast didn’t work – it might have a more sensitive component than the xbox because if 2 xboxs didn’t fry I don’t think theres a problem. I have a Sanyo microwave I wonder if yours might be very old maybe? Mine is about 4 years old.

    putting a 360 in a tub has no merit tho, Shawn is qualified to speak on these things I think.

    Buuut if you have a warranty why don’t you just use that? Didn’t you hear microsoft increased the warranty because of complaints?
    If you’re too worried just send it in to MS even if you have to pay because in the end its YOUR money/xbox.

  • JOP

    Thanks JimZ for the feedback. I appreciate the fact that you tried to provide proof. My microwave is about a year old (American Heritage brand) and probably you’re right…the DC may have something in it that fried it.

    I’ll probably take the warranty route. Thanks for taking time to comment on my post.

    Cheers!

  • ZaneKiller

    Hey mate,

    How did you guys find the warranty? I was so freekin p*ssed because I returned my xbox within a week of buying it (had it for a while now) with 3 red lights, then the one they sent me (apparently they fixed mine? But they didnt speak good english) lasted for a few months and had to be returned… I had one more and it went again, microsoft is just ridiculous.. That is the ONLY reason I tried the microwave trick but it seems to have done a better job than microsoft themselves lol, well to be honest it’s lasted longer than any of the consoles they’ve returned to me.. (I dont know if I still have the original or a new one).

    Anyway just thought i’d add that
    ZaneK

  • Sean

    I laughed when I read it. I had error 0200. I tried it. Unbelievably, it worked. Some oddness- got some green haze to the video output and a red light in the XBox end of the AV cable. Unplugged it, reattached, green haze gone. Totally wierd.

    By Colecovision, NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 all worked (and still work) flawlessly, just the memory chip degradation affecting the older consoles. XBox is a piece of crap compared to the longevity of 99% of all other consoles. There’s no way I’m dropping $400 on any other Microsoft hardware device, ever.

  • Baz

    hehe yeah Sean, I was same.
    microwave trick forever!!
    microsoft sux

  • I’ve heard all kinds of reasons for the red lights problem and all kinds of wacky solutions. This blog seems to have some good info

  • Baz

    Logan dude that page is useless, you basically are telling people they have to pay for a guide to sell these xboxes. However if you lookup the website that you have ‘recommended’ its owned by the same person as your website? You dodgy… If you ain’t gonna help people just stay out of here.

    At least there are still people like Shawn who contribute their own time to HELP others rather than line their own pockets with $. And to shawn – how do you know so much about microwaves lol?

  • Shawno

    Well, this one time at Band-Camp, I got locked in a microwave…

  • OH MY GOD….YOU MUST BE DOIN IT WRONG

    First of all….hi everybody…:)

    I’m mike and like alot of people…i got suckered into buying an xbox360 early on…
    then it fucked up….(all ill say is, project gotham 3 with buildings on there sides)
    SO
    i got another:):):):):):) IT FUCKED UP
    .
    Im now on my 3rd sexbox 360……ITS JUST FUCKED UP!!!!!

    NICE 1 BILL

    So i was searching the web and came across numerous websites offering all sorts of ways to fix the Microsoft wonder machine.

    I also went on ebay and bought a load of pdf’s that were more indepth.
    SO far my total cost on a working xbox360 is
    fix=£1.50 xbox=£350 3 flashin basterd lights

    Priceless

    N E WAY…..

    I went on the xbox360 sight and saw that if you were getting this 3 light problem, you could send your sexbox back and get it repaired.

    So i signed up 2 do it and there sending me the freepost box thing?!$* I’m not quite sure what it is.

    So in the mean time i had a think about this towel trick.
    I thought what it actually does to the xbox. It creates a massive block on airflow which…..in time would make the xbox overheat.

    I then rememberd only a few days earlier we had a party for new years….
    new years party + 2 live DJ’s in ya house = beer on the floor.

    So there must have been alot of moisture on the floor.

    So i tried it…the xbox360 got MEGA SMEGGING HOT!!!

    After about 20 minutes i took away the towels…Turned it off……….Then turned it on again.

    THE FUCKER WORKED…NO WORD OF A LIE…I KID U NOT

    The moral of the story is….This “TRICK” actually works.

    Michael Bedder

    -END-

  • Charles

    My buddy got the RRoD and he tried the towel trick. His XBox has worked for a month now.

  • G_Dub

    Yes the towel trick is a good temporary measure, I used it to a few times but in the end I bit the bullet and did the microwave trick and it seems to be working permanently. I have a Sanyo 600 watt microwave and I put it in for 30 seconds it now works perfectly after the solder has re-molten into the tracks.

  • G_Dub

    Hey guys i’ve read through the posts again and am going to do some research – I too tried a dreamcast and certain other PCBs in the microwave and they went quite sparky, however when I did an xbox in the same microwave it worked fine. I tried an original XBOX and XBOX 360 (only original for about 10 seconds as nothing wrong with it) and both did not arc/spark/flame and the 360 now works.

    I will get back to you – there has to be something different about the xbox as to why microwave will only hit the solder in them, but damages other cards.

  • Matt

    I know you’re unlikely to believe me, but I tried this “trick” today as a last resort (already voided the warranty by opening the 360 up) and it worked! Obviously this works in very situational circumstances as people have reported it not solving the problem, but I can tell you if you’ve run out of options give it a go. I left mine on for an hour with the towel over until the three flashing red lights became two (which means the 360 is overheating) I then turned off the console and back on again and hey presto!

  • The towel trick does work. I wrapped my xbox 360 in 2 towels, let it heat up for like 25 minutes. I then turned it off and (this is the part where it sounds to weird to be true) put it in the freezer for like 7 minutes, took it out when it was all the way cool (below room temperature) plugged it in, and it has been running for over a week now. Believe what you want, I don’t know if it works by re-soldering the cheap solder job Microsoft did or resetting the chip set, but IT WORKS. I would agree with you though, if your system is still under warranty just send it back and get a new one (they will not tell you what was wrong they just say “we could not find the problem” and send you a new one).

  • Dylan

    Trust me it works if you do it properly it did for me

  • will this void my warranty if i do this towel thing

  • DIAMONDgh0st

    well guys and girls! i have just had the the 3 red lights 4 times in a row! now i heard about the towel trick! so i thought fuck it il try it! and it works! believe me my xbox is still goinj strong , just like an old transit van! so if u get red lights rap it up leave it to heat up and leave for about 20mins!

  • banzai562

    got the red rings last night. so i tried the towel trick and an hour later (35-40 mins toastin and 20-25 mins chillin) it’s back up runnin. hopefully for months to come

  • stevenyoung91

    can i just say folks that im from scotland and did not believe any of this crap at first but i thought ill give it a try, i paid £25 from a site in which it gives details of how to fix the dreaded ring of death. after watching all the videos and downloading and printing the ebook that came with it, i needed to order artic silver 5 stuff the torque screwdrivers and get some bolts and washers etc, so i have ordered the stuff last night. i have ordered another xbox 360 but the arcade version that is meant to be better. but i am sitting with out a 360 and the tv is crap and the weather is really crap so i thought i would use the towel trick just in case.

    i wrapped it up with 2 large towels and turned it on.

    i left it for about 15 mins and checked it. yes it was heating up so i thought ok leave it a bit more. after about 20 mins it turned itself off. so i turned it on again. after about 2 mins the fans inside the 360 was going full speed. i mean really fast and loud. so i turned the xbox off. i unwrapped it and turned it on. my god it was working. started loading a game and it crashed and the ring of death was back on

    i knew it wouldnt work. but i thought it did nearly work. maybe longer in the towels. so i done the whole thing again and left it for longer in the towels. when i turned it off i let it cool for 20 mins. i have an external fan that slots on to the back so i think that is why mine has lasted so long. so i put it all back together including the fan and hd lead. when i turned it on the fans sounded ok and my xbox worked FINE. i was scared that it would crash again so i let it sit on for 5 mins then turned it off and let it sit for 5 mins.

    its now working fine, now dont get me wrong, its working just now and seems as if it has always been ok, but it might still go back to the way it was, it seems maybe a few days is ok according to youtube etc. but im still going to use that artic silver 5 stuff and replace all the thermal paste because its meant to stop any future ring of deaths. if you want a quick fix then please use the towels but be carefull there looks to be a fire risk, if you check youtube there is a video showing you exactly what to do. but it will be a short fix and maybe do the same as me for the thermal paste. hopefully ill get my new arcade one soon and have both xboxs working fine. if you need to ask me the name of that site showing you what to do then please email me or i can send you a copy of the ebook but with videos it is better.
    hope this helps.

    my email is [email protected]

  • ctuchik

    i got the 360 in christmas 2006 and the day i got it it put a fucking huge ring around my LOTR BFME2 game, thought that someone must have knocked it or something and got a new game
    then about a month later i am having problems with playing discs. it just says that random games(even brand new ones) are unreadable, so i just traded in games that didnt work.
    then i get a freezing issue in the summer which was luckily just because it had overheated a little bit. let it rest for a week and no problems until this christmas where a few days beforehand it came up completely randomly with the three red lights. i hadnt been on it for a good 3 or 4 days and no one hhad touched it and i just go upstairs to play it and it doesnt work. tryed the towel trick and after doing it about 4 times it worked perfectly until yesterday and now it isnt working for shit.
    does anyone know what actually causes this because i have about 20 mates that got the 360 at exactly the same time as me and only 3 of the xboxs have had no problems at all.
    i am worried as to how long it will take for MS to send it back and how much it will cost
    some of my friends xboxs took over 4 weeks to get back and that is disturbing for supposedly overnight shipping

  • m.selfridge

    YO… im kinda drunk right now on German beer. Schneider Weisse… GREAT STUFF by the way. Any way Im half watching a boring ass super bowl, and pissed off that for the last two days I’ve been getting wht i will henceforth refer to as “the lights”… My sack is completely drained because I’ve been having make up sex with my girlfriend for the past 3 days… nother story. Otherwise Id probably be watchin porn on the net… Ok so anyway i was browsin around on the internet lookin for a solution (that I dont have to give some A-hole 25 bucks for) and I find this blog pretty high on the list of searches. Im a lazy prick, so the microsoft route was a last resort, and also I have no idea when i bought it or if i even have the reciept. so i start reading…

    Why in the f%^k would i wrap a towel around my $400 prize piece of gaming hardware? I’ll tell you why… becasue im the kind of guy who fixes s^&t by hitting or shaking it… and im a dumb ass… and im drunk. So anyway… Im reading this thing and thinking, s&*t, if this many people are trying it, and have been responding for over a year to the original blog entry, why the F not, right?

    So I did it. I wrapped my friggin XBOX 360 in 2 towels for 20 minutes. Why not… I took the towels off and the thing was F’in hot dudes. I mean… it was hot. I think I didnt mention yet that im really impatient. so letting it cool down was not an option. I turned it on. “the lights” were mocking me still… so I put my intercooler back on (which is so damn loud, i hate it, but without it my games would freeze after like 45 minutes and I F’in hate that more) and ran it for like 5 minutes, until i felt it was a little cooler. Then it happened…

    As I turned on the power and waited that excrucuiating 1-2 seconds for “the lights” I saw something that puts my faith back in humanity, technology, and the internet. Spinning green lights….

    Yes my friends… spinning clockwise or counterclockwise I know not. But there they were. In shock i turned it off, and havent turned it on since. Ive been typing for about 15 minutes now. Hold on… let me go check it.

    Holy S%^t… “the lights” were back… I shut it off immediately, Opened the tray (which also powers up the machine) and there they are… my beautiful green lights. Im sure here is no formula, as to why it works for me and not some… (unless they are microsoft dooshbags trying to get over on us) I’ll keep you posted, my new friends. But for those in doubt… it FU#%$IN WORKS… DO IT!!!!

  • G_Dub

    Hey guys i’ve read through the posts again and am going to do some research – I too tried a dreamcast and certain other PCBs in the microwave and they went quite sparky, however when I did an xbox in the same microwave it worked fine. I tried an original XBOX and XBOX 360 (only original for about 10 seconds as nothing wrong with it) and both did not arc/spark/flame and the 360 now works.

    I will get back to you – there has to be something different about the xbox as to why microwave will only hit the solder in them, but damages other cards.

    Ok guys well i’ve found the answer after much research and a few calls to Microsoft (well alot actually). It appears the underside of the mainboard has heavily incorporated susceptor materials. These are basically lightly metallised plastic film laminated to a supporting paper or paperboard. Microsoft installed these to help prevent static during transport supposedly, but I suspect they may be used mainly to offset the handling practices of the manufacturing plants in Singapore etc. Obviously, apart from preventing static, susceptor materials also have the remarkable ability to attract microwave radiation – and in the 360s case – direct the radiation to the solder tracks. Now, being in the industry it took ALOT of work to uncover these details, but Microsoft still refused to admit point blank that these materials are there to stop the boards being damaged overseas..
    They obviously also do not realise (or will ever admit) that these materials help keep the electromagnetic radiation concentrated to the solder tracks, thus helping fix broken tracks after a short spell in any microwave (around 20-30 secs)..

    PS For those who don’t know what a common use for susceptor materials is – Remember a few years ago various companies started marketing ‘browning paper’ that you wrap foods up in – and it made them crisp on the outside? Thats pretty much what this is (except designed slightly different for a different purpose).

    Anyway we can all relax now we know why the microwave trick works finally!
    *gives self a prize*

    susceptor materials. These are typically a lightly metallised plastic film laminated to a supporting paper or paperboard,

  • Roy

    It worked for me, and that’s all that matters!!!!!

    My system woke up with the 3 rings of death. I did some research on the net and read about this towel trick. At first I thought the guys were crazy but thought the process out and gave it a try. What the heck, the worst that could have happened is to fry a system that was already broken anyway. At least this way Microsoft would have no choice but to send me a new unit…..
    Anyway, I wrapped my xbox with 2 towels and turn it on for 30 minutes. I was watching TV all the time, in the same room, so I was right here if anything went bad. After 30 minutes I turned the unit off and left it there for about 15 minutes.
    I turned the system on and inserted a game only to see, to my astonishment, it was working fine.
    Hey, it may not fix all the problems, but it certainly fixed mine. Go figure…………………..

  • G_Dub

    Yes as i’ve said before there is no doubt the towel trick works for a short period of time, but in the end the microwave trick is the only proven method for a permanent solution.

  • G_Dub

    I really hope these spammers posting guides or links to guides that you have to PAY to access get banned from this forum
    All they do is waste time and line their pockets with cash
    if they really wanted to help they would post their methods

  • Tony Montana

    Fair enough rich, but it’s still riskier than using microwave to fix.
    In the microwave you don’t void the warranty as you don’t need to open the xbox. + microwave takes about 20 seconds

    Me and 2 friends have had 3 red lights and after many weeks of debating we all found the microwave trick works quickest and safest
    One friend only needed 15 seconds so yea

  • PulseR

    i tried this towel trick and it worked! after the towel trick i played for about 4 hours, and then my 360 started acting weird. it hasn’t given me the 3 reds since i did the towel, but it is still freezing repeatedly.

  • I think the “towel trick” is a quick fix and you really need a permenant fix . I found this site that provides some useful guides on how to fix the three red light error and other common xbox 360 faults xbox-360-repair

  • G_Dub

    koolio please read the above posts you ignorant boy. About 10 people have already posted the link you have, and furthermore it’s already been proven that those sorts of methods make u lose ur warranty.
    So far microwave trick is the only proven safe method of permanently fixing ur xbox.

  • mike

    actually the red ring towel trick does work you should probably send it back but if u r 2 lazy and cant wait like i did after u wrap it and it works like it worked for me just leave the system off and unplugged 4 an hr or so read a book watch tv or go out than turn back on ur system and it will work like new i havent seen red ring in 2 months i no it sounds like complete bull shit didnt believe it myself but i tried it and it worked i gess some pple get lucky and others get screwed over

  • Will

    i dont know whats up with mine i had not played the night before and the next morning the following happend: “aaaah saturday,im gonna play some halo 3….. oh sh#t” my xbox didnt even turned on just 3 gotdamned red lights i alredy unpluged and pluged back but still! ;( im gonna send it to microsoft

  • Will

    fuck it, my xbox is cooling from the towel trick right now, if it dosent work itl be going to the microwave

  • Will

    holy shit iput it on the microwave for 3 seconds and the a fucking flash came out of the xbox i took it out and it smells wierd…OMG i justpluged it in and one red ring on the lowerleft appered that dosent look good… i want my 3 death rings back!!!!!!! im scared

  • Will

    lower right srry

  • Danny

    Dude if u put it in for 3 minutes it does that.
    U only need to microwave ur xbox for 30sec

  • Danny

    and even if u did do it for 3minutes just send it back to microsoft. Thats the good thing about microwave is u dont have to worry about voiding warranty because u dont need to open up the console

  • Will

    dude i said 3 SECONDS

  • Johnny

    I tried the towel trick and it didn’t work. Then
    I thought maybe my towel wasn’t the right kind.
    I tried a bunch of different ones, and it finally
    worked after I used a dark one.

    So I think all you guys that are failing the towel
    trick, you’re probably using white towels.

    I don’t think it matters if it’s dirty or clean
    but it needs to be dark.

  • Johnny

    I think the towel trick may not cause solder joints
    to reflow.

    The 360 got an update to have variable fan speed control..
    so it boots with low speed fans.

    Low speed fans will accumulate dust/dirt more, and
    maybe have other long term issues with reliability.

    I’m wondering if what happens with the towel trick, is
    that it forces the fans to run high speed (it does) for a while,
    which clears out gunk and stuff..so the fans run better
    at low speed.

    The ideal thing would be if we could disable the variable
    fan speed control. There are some softmods that do it, but
    microsoft should have booted at high speed and then shifted
    down, rather than booting at low speed and shifting up.

    Yeah there could be solder ball issues, but I think
    this could be more of a basic fan issue.

  • CONOR O’ROURKE

    NO, IT ACTUALLY WORKS I DID IT TO MINE ALSO!!
    THE THREE RED LIGHT MEANS A HARDWARE FAILIER SO WHAT YOU HEAT IT UP THAT HOT IT RE-SOLDERS WHAT EVER CONECT GOT LOOSE.

  • You can fix it with a real repair guide.

  • Fuddy

    actually, if you have one of the many launch 360s with soldering problems this DOES work. The heat causes the metal to expand and make a proper connection. It will only last for a few hours, but it can work. It will NOT fix all 3 RROD problems.

  • Josh

    I tried the towel trick, 5 days ago. the problem with my 360 was the soldering, but i didnt get any red rings. i would like to know if anybody has a guide to completely re-soldering the 360. a repair guide that is free not some of the online eBooks that cost $25. the towel trick worked for 5 days, and i did it again. but it has only worked temporarily. i would like to have a permanent fix. if anybody could help me with this. please i would like the assisstance.

    my email is
    [email protected]

  • Danny

    All you people who keep saying ‘dude the towel trick works’ YES WE ALREADY KNOW, ITS BEEN SAID A MILLION TIMES! It ONLY works temporarily though, thats why we’ve been discussing the microwave trick as that seems to be permanent. I have not seen anyone who has used the microwave trick and had it stop working after a while…

    FOR ALL THE NOOBS WHO CAN’T BE BOTHERED TO READ BACK A FEW POST, here is what G_dub found. I would like to thank him for donating his experience and expertise to this discussion

    Ok guys well i’ve found the answer after much research and a few calls to Microsoft (well alot actually). It appears the underside of the mainboard has heavily incorporated susceptor materials. These are basically lightly metallised plastic film laminated to a supporting paper or paperboard. Microsoft installed these to help prevent static during transport supposedly, but I suspect they may be used mainly to offset the handling practices of the manufacturing plants in Singapore etc. Obviously, apart from preventing static, susceptor materials also have the remarkable ability to attract microwave radiation – and in the 360s case – direct the radiation to the solder tracks. Now, being in the industry it took ALOT of work to uncover these details, but Microsoft still refused to admit point blank that these materials are there to stop the boards being damaged overseas..
    They obviously also do not realise (or will ever admit) that these materials help keep the electromagnetic radiation concentrated to the solder tracks, thus helping fix broken tracks after a short spell in any microwave (around 20-30 secs)..

    PS For those who don’t know what a common use for susceptor materials is – Remember a few years ago various companies started marketing ‘browning paper’ that you wrap foods up in – and it made them crisp on the outside? Thats pretty much what this is (except designed slightly different for a different purpose).

    Anyway we can all relax now we know why the microwave trick works finally!
    *gives self a prize*

  • I opened my 360 and vacuumed it with a computer vacuume 4 months ago. No more 3 red lights.
    3 red lights came back last week, vacuuming it didnt work, heat gun to GPU and CPU to remelt solder didn’t work. Towel trick 3 times did remove the three red lights for a few minutes, but never any A/V. I must have broken the GPU with the heat gun. Threw it into the microwave for 14 seconds (saw some very light white smoke, mind you this was only minutes after it was on for a few minutes [hot already] and after two towel trick attempts), never saw any metalic flashes, never heard any electrical popping (think fork in microwave), took it out, it turned on, the dvd tray would open/close, no more three red lights, green middle light stays on no matter if the xbox is actively turned “on” or “off”, but power brick does go from yellow to green. Yet, still no A/V. Heat gun killed that I believe. I used the heat gun at my IT shop. I tried to follow the instructions of the more experienced at soldering unsoldering motherboards…but after I failed the heat gun trick I was told that maybe this board was too complicated…lol…great.

    Summary: Don’t F around if you already opened the xbox 360 to clean it out (helps for a time, especially if you keep up on it preventively…the thing likes to make a “sweater” for itself via lent and dust in the air) and you get the three red lights PERMANENTLY. Just microwave it for 15 seconds (less time the better in my opionion), try it out, let it cool, and then do 20 seconds, try it out, let it cool (like 20 min or more), then add another 5 seconds until it works. Or just go with the above prescribed time for wattage in earlier posts (do CTRL-F and search “900” for the post). ALSO, make sure the xbox is completely assembled before trying the microwave trick. I like the idea that the plastics is shielding the metal screws and other metal things a bit and don’t know what will happen if they were openly exposed to the microwaves (think fork left in bowl problem…bye bye microwave).

    HOPE THIS HELPS

  • sensual t

    The towel technique for repairing the 3 lights flashing issue REALLY works!! Thanks for sharing!

  • Since I observed a minute telltale sign of harmless white smoke from my 360 after only 14 secs in the microwave (due to already being hot from multiple towel tricks) I would suggest this:

    Have your xbox be very cool to the touch (set it out on the cement floor of your garage if that is a cool place for a few hours) then microwave it. Ever notice that warm food becomes VERY hot fast in a microwave but it takes cool food a loooong time to even get warm in a microwave? This may allow the rest of your 360 some protection as the sodder heats up fast via microwave collection.

    Good luck.

  • Mikey

    What the heii, I’ll try the towel technique… I was initially disappointed when my 360 wasn’t backwards compatible… and mildly appeased when my first update make it partially compatible… but this red ring is too much to take… clearly it’s a manufacturer’s defect and Microsoft should do the right thing and either issue a recall or fix the damn things for free… can anyone say “class action lawsuit”? At any rate… I’m done with Microsoft’s platforms… I liked my X-Box and my 360… but what good are expensive non-playable systems… The best way for us to send a message to Microsoft is… well… take the time to send them a message promising not to play their game anymore… consumer reaction is the best course of action…

  • J

    i just got the red lights….well shit ima use my 360 to beat this kid over the head with and take his damn ps3….

  • cooperman32

    Now i posted back near the end of sep2007 that my xbox “died”so i took back to GAME uk store and traded infor an ELITE console which more than pleased me.Anyway 2 days ago only 5-6 months after purchasing the ELITE i agin suffered te ring of death,now i did takeback to GAME with the receipt and they gladly swapped for a new replacement ELITE console straight away but i tought the ELITE console was made after all the ringof death probs and it wouldnt happen,i was wrong!!! Just before i took it back i tried it once more andlo and behold it worked for no reason but i wasnt going to keep it ad just wait for it to go again but for F***S sake microsoft i love your console the games the xboxlive marketplace infact EVERYTHING except fo your shoddy lack of finishing skills in the console itself PLEASE PLEASE SORT THIS OUT(i did buy a ps3 60g at xmas but already sold it cos the software and online content make it far inferior to the 360)

  • keir

    just doing towel trick as we speak 8.38 pm lets see if it works ??? its sounding alot better 🙂 il take the towel off in a bit it is now 8.49 pm sounds loads better il give it another 5 mins then i will take it off , hope it blee*y works !!!! 4 mins to go , im keeping my eye on it last thing i want is a fire haha 🙂 towel is quite hot ??? haha 3 mins left xbox is pretty loud now lol sounds like its goin to expload guna give it 1 more minute ??? rite it is 8.53 and i am now taking of the towel for the moment of truth ??? wooooo the xbox is boiling haha im gun leave it for 30 secs to cool down and then try it
    ??? grrrrrr it hasn’t worked for me :((( f**k sake

  • Danny

    you, keir, are an idiot.
    Please learn how to read.
    The towel trick is risky, thats why all of us who can actually READ did some research and used the more reliable microwave trick detailed above

  • keir and I and the “others” shall form an idiot band. We will instruct the uninitiated by our poor example and our repeatedly failed towel tricks. Since I CAN read I shall be made their Captain. But it is a shameful position for alas I go home everyday to a loving family of six, a large 42 Westinghouse 1080P LCD TV, and a broken xbox 360 due to my incompentent comprehension skills. The only succor me and my pitiful band of ID10Ts will be that our skewered “bodies” of confessional posts shall perhaps deter a few brave souls that can read and weren’t as foolishly over cautios (read WEAK) as us. We whos 360’s have died, salute you.
    :salutes:

  • Danny

    officerdave,

    I actually missed your first post about the towel trick failing & microwave attempt. I am quite surprised that you put it in the microwave while it’s still hot?!
    As for the plastic shielding/metal screws – from what I understand these shouldn’t even matter as its the susceptor materials used in the mainboard manufacturing process that actually attract and concentrate the electromagnetic radiation directly onto the solder tracks.
    But.. then again in practicality things always can have minute details overlooked so I agree it would be best to leave it in it’s complete case before attempting the microwave trick (at least it’s been proven to work)..
    PS To anyone thinking about microwaving other electrical components – DO NOT DO IT.. If you must need an explanation read through this forum, but you will fry anything other than a 360 mainboard!

    PPS I think there will be about 50 people to join your group officerdave!

  • Isn’t hindsight amazing. I’m going to order (when I get money) a replacement motherboard from Ebay for $149 (comes with original DVD player) test out my original xbox’s internal cables, etc, and then sell those parts individually on Ebay…they are hot items. And if that RROD comes back, I’ll nuke away. I’m almost looking forward to it. 🙂

    PS My IT staff flipped out when they heard I nuked it. They literally flipped out. 🙂 it was awesome.

  • Mikey

    Okay… so I called Microsoft customer service… I guess so many people are complaining about the 3 rings of death that they have extended the warranty on the machines to 3 years for this specific problem, so as to avoid a class-action lawsuit… they sent me a USPS box that arrived within a couple of days… so I ship it in tomorrow for free… A bigger concern for me at this point is the “ring” the 360 etched into my son’s Lego Star Wars disk… I thought he was somehow to blame for the disk scratch, but while I was researching the red light of death issue, I came across an article about a class-action lawsuit that was filed because of this disk-destroying problem… Thanks Microsoft for such a wonderful product! If you haven’t registered your 360, you might want to, just so you can participate in the class-action lawsuit…

  • Greetings my fellow disgruntled brethren.

    My XBOX 360 worked for quite some time after a homemade repair but has returned to its old tricks. The Nazi. And now that I have cracked the case there is not much hope for me. Oh well, good thing I haven’t much time these days to game anyways, what with three boys under the age of four and a fourth child, girl, on the way this July. Life is a roller coaster.

    Sure, I’ll get a Playstation 3 soon 😉

    Have I encouraged you? If not, please forgive me.

    Your brother in disgruntled gaming land.

  • Colin J., have you considered the nerve racking Microwave Trick yet? If you already opened the thing, and you put it all back together in its original form (very important) why not nuke it for 15-30 seconds? Read Danny’s emails starting from the bottom up for more info. THIS could be the ticket for ya.

    Oh, and I too have three kids 4 and under. . . and another one on the way in Aug!!! We find out Monday if it is a girl (i think so) or a boy. Good Luck, dude!

  • ocifferdave,

    I have considered this however I know a guy who did the microwave fix only to completely fry his system. It will not even power on now and has this acrid electrical fire odor about it. Not going with that idea. I believe I will be a refurbished one or just bite the bullet on day… and buy a new one. I am having too much fun with my computer gaming rig right now.

    Congrats on your new addition.

  • Danny

    Colin,

    Do you have details about this guy? Had he opened up the system beforehand? The only explanation I could think of for this is if he removed the susceptor material somehow and then nuked it after that..
    Was it put back in the case when he did it also?
    Just would like to get as many details as possible as I havn’t had this happen yet.

    Best regards
    Danny

  • Colin, thanks for putting up that godly website. I LOVE the music! I listened to it all night long while I played an online game on my laptop. Especially like the first two.

  • ocifferdave, what website do you speak of? I can’t find where Colin mentioned any sites…just curious.

  • Danny,

    I am not sure about what he did before nuking it but knowing him I highly doubt his ability to even crack the case.

    ocifferdave,

    Thanks. I don’t blog as much as I would like to. A lot going on around here with family and what not. I do need to change up and add some more music. I have eclectic music tastes. What online games do you play?

    Tyler,

    ocifferdave is talking about the link anchored to my name. It takes you to my blog.

  • Danny

    Ok Colin,

    Thanks, its just the first time i’ve heard of this.
    I guess i’ll just put it down to he may have tried it immediately after the towel trick!

  • Tammy

    I was with my boyfriend and his SECOND xbox 360 from ebay stopped working, he was pissed and I told him about the microwave thing (since he had 2 anyway) and he said it was stupid…
    I waited till he was in the shower and put one in for 15 seconds and it started working again! So I went and did it to the second one and it did tooo lol. I didn’t say anything just started playing it and when he came out of the shower he didnt believe how I fixed them, still a bit confused I think. Anyway gonna sell one on ebay (for which i’ve demanded half the profit lol) now. Thanks Danny! Wish I had a bf like you sometiems
    haha just kidding

  • johnny

    hi guys i run my own electrical company and we fix all manner of things including games consoles mainly xbox 360s

    for all of you that are considering the towel trick yes it dose work for a while

    BUT from experience where people have brought in there xbox consoles comlaning of there consoles have the 3 red lights and when i open them up all of the heatsink paste is spread all over the componets where the heat has melted becuse it cant escape

    so if you are going to do that trick then dont do it to many times beacuse it will fry you console

    as for the microwave trick i have done my research and yes there is some logic in it but i would still not recomend it

    thanks for reading my post

  • Harry

    Admin can you pls delete josh’s post.. Its just spam
    As for Johnny do u have any reason that you don’t recommend microwave trick or is it just because you fix the consoles and wouldnt get as much cash if everyone used the microwave trick lol
    I too have used the microwave trick with great success (ok only 1 console but still!)

  • Colin, I play MTGO online mostly. Fun and you can even play with their free 10Ed card packs against others with the same free packs.
    Also i had played DDO until i made the uber BATMAN (Jack of all trades) toon. Then I got burnt out. I mostly play RPGs, strategy games to create characters…and MTGO or Magic the Gathering Online allows me to create my own thing a WHOLE heck of a lot.

    Tammy, you got more balls than your bf. *applauds*

  • Josh

    actually HARRY, its not spam, these people are dealing with broken xboxes and im informing them on how to get new 1s.

    So yeah, recently my Xbox 360 has been giving me lots of trouble with it stop working and the video just going black.

    I could fix this, but i found a better solution, its a site that lets you get a free xbox 360 elite. You don’t have to be 18 for most of it, and to sign up you don’t have to have a credit card.

    So heres some steps.

    Step 1: Sign-up, heres my referral link that helps me on my way to get my 360, its quick to sign up.

  • Actually Josh, it is spam. That’s why I flagged your first comment as spam, and have removed most of the spammy contents from your most recent comment.

    You can leave now.

  • god i have never heard such a load of bitches go on about one fucking silly thing. it over heats thats the thing go to some guy who can fix it for 30 fucking quid or buy a new console.

  • This is what I’ve been reduced into playing since I screwed my xbox 360 with that heat gun debacle (i wont even say “trick”) at work.

    http://www.handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/Game.asp

    DONT click that link if your XBOX works or even has a CHANCE of working. It’s a shame to abandon a perfectly good and working 360 that you paid LOADS for (*sniff* mine brokey) to play the above highly addicting free flash based game…especially if your boss lets you play your 360 at your work cubicle.

  • Cipher

    I have an Xbox 360 core edition, one of the very first, and it has never once failed on me.
    Ok it locked up once of twice playing Oblivion, but I have never had the RROD and I am probably the only person I know that hasnt. The only thing I can think of is overheating, and I have to say I think its the Hard Disk Drive doing it.
    I dont have one with my box, everyone else I know does, and ALL of their boxes have RROD’d on them at least once.

    Just as a point of interest, does anyone here have a 360 that failed and NOT have a HDD?

  • nigel

    the towel trick does work my cousin had the 3 red lights so he put it into the towel turned it on and it worked when he switched it on the next time but sadly it didnt last long so he got a ps3 instead

  • Danny

    Ok, so putting your xbox in the microwave for 20 seconds may indeed fix the RROD.. But HERES what happens when you put it in for 12 minutes LOL

    Funny tho, after almost all that time virtually nothing happened. This can easily be attributed to the susceptor materials used in the mainboard construction.

    Interesting read though!

  • I saw that video a few weeks ago on YouTube. I *almost* posted it here but didnt since all I had to show was the video and it didnt have that above mentioned webpage to explain what was going on. Nice find.

  • sam

    I do not want to try the towel trick if it voids my warrenty I was woundering if doing the towel trick will void my warrenty, the three red lights also did come about 2 days after a large update. thanks

  • Harry

    sam,

    The towel trick will not void your warranty if you do it once usually, but if you do it a few times it most certainly will. The problem being with the towel trick is it overheats your whole system, NOT just the solder tracks. This is usually a problem as the towel trick is not permanent and only works for a few hours to a few weeks. I personally recommend the microwave trick as it’s a permanent fix and have not had any cases where it has not been a success. If you want more info read some of the posts above, but in a nutshell – Put your xbox in the microwave for approx 20 seconds, let it cool for about 30 mins then turn it on, if it does not work ENSURE IT IS COOL and then put it in the microwave for a bit longer (say 23 seconds) and repeat the procedure. When you hit the right time for your microwave wattage, the solder will re-flow into its tracks on the mainboard.

  • cameron

    i have the 3 rings of death and the way i fixed it was i put a fan up to it for about 5 min. and the system then worked until i turn it off, so ever time i want to play i put my fan up to it. it sucks but it works for me

  • Harry

    Hi Cameron,

    Thanks for your input – if that is the case your system must simply be overheating in which case the towel trick/microwave trick will do nothing. You might want to invest in one of the many cooling kits available for the xbox 360 which although will be a hassle at first, will extend the life of your box.

    Harry

  • Josh

    does anybody have PROOF that the microwave trick works? and permanently? ive been going on the towel trick now for about 3 monthes, and the problem with my 360 is a broken solder joint in the video card, so a re-flow is needed, but i want video proof of the microwave trick working, then ill try it. no offense to all the people saying it works, and in theory it sounds like it would, i just dont want to end up screwing up my 360 and voiding my warranty.

    Also, since ive been doing the towel trick approximately once every week ( sometimes more) until i overheat it, will my warranty be voided?

  • Josh

    Also, im not getting PRoD for some reason…

  • Harry

    Josh,
    Whereabouts you live? If you live near me you could come into my shop and I could show you an xbox being repaired live in the microwave..
    How do you know that you have a broken solder joint in the video card? If you don’t have rrod it could be something else thats all, and if it is something unrelated then the microwave trick won’t do anything for you!
    As I said i’ve only tried it on 3 rrod systems when solder connections need to be reflowed. If this isn’t your problem then it will be as useful as a priest with a boy that has no mouth/rear end

  • dickhead

    stupid assholes it works i did it

  • Harry

    Thank you ‘dickhead’
    No one ever said it didn’t work, someone just queried why he should believe it does.
    Perhaps you could be a little more constructive and upload a video?

  • Juan Pablo

    I dont Know if someone sppek spanish, though Im going to say in spanish!!

    yo tengo mi xbox 360, soy de Ecuador, algunos creen que al abrir la maquina pierdes la garantia, lo cual es verdad, miren, aca en mi pais ponemos un chip para jugar copias piratas que se venden libremente… ahora la mejor solucion definitivamente es abrirla para soldar bien todo lo que se quema por el uso en el 360, asi que les recomiendo que envien a un serv tecnico, abran al 360, suelden lo que esta mal en la maquina y arreglen definitivamente el aparato en lugar de ponelo en 2 tuallas y dañar mas al 360

    saludos

  • MJ

    Mine has just come back from Microsoft and 2 weeks of gaming later the 3 red lights has returned.

    I dunno bout U guys but I am in the UK and they repair for free, even though out of warranty if you have the three red lights.

    I will be trying the towel trick and then sending it back next few days if that doesn’t work!

  • Mikey

    Apparently the replacement XBOX 360 that Microsoft sent me last month has already succumbed to the rings of death… I will confirm it when I return to the states…

    shame Microsoft… SHAME!

  • SmashingBumpkins

    I’ve actually done this on several occassions, and It does work.. I did it the first time and it worked for 2 months before I got the red lights again.

  • Josh

    recently the towel trick has stopped working for me, and my color has been going off because of the video card soldering, what i did, although it damaged the plastic shell of my 360 a little in the back, was take a blow dryer and put it on high blowing into the fans of the 360, while it was wrapped in a towel. its working like a charm so far no colors messed up, however i have this little hole from melted plastic… but idc, i just want to play my games ^^.

  • i have had that 3 red lighths of death. so i was like WTF os this look up a website, find this one. try the stupid towel trick. My 360 worked 4 about 1 day. After that the next time i cut it on it froze on the xbox 360 logo screen. the froze screen was checkered
    red and black and also transparent.

  • brian

    i did the towel trick, and it worked! i didnt have the red ring of death to start out with but rather my video and sound stopped working. so i wrapped it up in the towel and over heated it so i would get the red ring and i did. i let it cool down then did the trick over again, leaving it wrapped up and on for about 25 minutes. unwrapped it and let it cool for about 15 minutes, and turned it on and no problem! what it did was heat up so much that it fixed the solderings in on the motherboard for the video connections. so if you have video problems or the red ring of death, try it. its worth an attempt instead of waiting 6 to 8 weeks to get it back from gay microsoft.

    email me if you have any questions: [email protected]

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  • Akex B. 77

    This really works…. I just dont know for how long tho :-{
    i left mine in four towels for 35 minutes and then cooled for 20. it worked but i was scared iwas gonna burn the house down!!!!!!! lol
    the towels were so hot!!! Good Luck if u try.
    ill cmt back when it stops working~

  • Alex B. 77

    the ps3 isnt any better!!! SHIT THEY MELTED AND BURNT DOWN HOUSES THE FIRST MONTH! and ya it has a blu-ray player! woopdidoo~~~ but it SUCKS!!!!!! and they mess up as well. for any gamer definatly get the xbox360 and if u dont wanna risk getting the ring of death than just get a xbox360 elite (black) they dont get ring of death because they r newer and improved!

  • JS

    Anybody tryed as fan?

  • justin

    actually, the towel method can work depending on various situations. typically, it will work for 3 days to a week. some people are doing this wrong and that is why everyone is calling it bunk. first off, dont be a dumbass and remove whatever disc is in your drive. remove the hard drive and av cables. wrap in 3 towels and turn it on and leave it on for 20 minutes. turn it off after the time and remove the towels. allow to cool for about 15 minutes. replace the hard drive and av cables. turn it back on and let it stay on for a good five minutes. DO NOT ENTER A GAME DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. i did this a while ago, and i still dont have any issues.

  • Will AkA Tiredeyes

    ok so we have a modified xbox360, cant send it back, so towel trick is a goer.
    Wrapped up in 3 towels and left for 2 hours…. yes 2 hours.
    It was hot today too, 25 degs in my sons loft conversion, where i put the wrapped up xbox360 directly in the sun too.
    left switched on for a full 2 hours.
    it was cooking hot. nice
    still 3 red lights on.
    switched it off.
    left off for one hour in a cool room.
    switched it on and hey presto…. it works mint, had it switched on for 5 hours now, and its fine….. will let you know when it mess’s up.
    thanks all for the info..

  • DP

    actually, while my xbox didnt have the rrod it didnt put any picture up on the television, i wrapped the xbox in a towel to give it the rrod and thro it out the window =] but after letting it burn for 5 hours it worked =P however about a month and a half later the same problem cam back and i just finished wrapping it up in a towel or two and its underneath my bed melting =] sweet dreams xbox…

  • ps3

    screw u all ps3 3 is much better ha ha ha dumb dick heads xbox is al load of BS!!!

  • TriedTru

    Mine had the right lower red light and the towel trick worked! The light came on after playing it upright for the very first time. Before, it was played laying flat on its side since I bought it. Wonder if that change created the internal problem?

  • jOKKO

    The towel trick didnt work for me but the microwave one worked a charm! Whoever found out the microwave trick is king.
    Now the xbox is back where it should be – AHEAD of rubbish ps3

  • Kerry

    hmm. microwave trick? im afraid to try it. but i have tried the towel trick. my 360 has the ROD eveytime i turn it on. i do the towel trick like everyday-and i have for the past 6 or 7 weeks. can i be completely assured that this so called microwave trick will fix it for life and not completely destroy this system that i payed so much money for??

  • Harry

    Kerry – I believe it was Danny who found out why the microwave trick works on Xbox 360s.. Cant be bothered re-writing it so ill just quote:

    Ok guys well i’ve found the answer after much research and a few calls to Microsoft (well alot actually). It appears the underside of the mainboard has heavily incorporated susceptor materials. These are basically lightly metallised plastic film laminated to a supporting paper or paperboard. Microsoft installed these to help prevent static during transport supposedly, but I suspect they may be used mainly to offset the handling practices of the manufacturing plants in Singapore etc. Obviously, apart from preventing static, susceptor materials also have the remarkable ability to attract microwave radiation – and in the 360s case – direct the radiation to the solder tracks. Now, being in the industry it took ALOT of work to uncover these details, but Microsoft still refused to admit point blank that these materials are there to stop the boards being damaged overseas..
    They obviously also do not realise (or will ever admit) that these materials help keep the electromagnetic radiation concentrated to the solder tracks, thus helping fix broken tracks after a short spell in any microwave (around 20-30 secs)..

    PS For those who don’t know what a common use for susceptor materials is – Remember a few years ago various companies started marketing ‘browning paper’ that you wrap foods up in – and it made them crisp on the outside? Thats pretty much what this is (except designed slightly different for a different purpose).

    Anyway we can all relax now we know why the microwave trick works finally!
    *gives self a prize*

  • Kerry

    ok. i was very nervous whenever i put my xbox in the microwave-BUT-after it was only in there for 3 seconds it started sparking like a firwork and after 10 seconds it started smoking and needless to say i got that thing the hell outta there. is that safe for it to smoke and spark??

  • Harry

    The smoke is completely normal, this happens whenever you melt solder no matter what method you use it will give off some smoke. I just want to clarify it was definately a 360 that you put in, not just an ordinary xbox? You say it sparked etc but you don’t mention the crucial thing – did it fix the 3 rrod after you powered it up?

    I have in some cases seen some arcing but its usually from underneath the xbox where the susceptor materials are dominant

  • Rich

    One thing that worked for my friend is using an ice pack. After the Xbox got the lights we unplugged it immediately and put an ice pack on it while fanning it. It worked perfectly when we plugged it back in 15 minutes later. It’s been about a month since then I believe and it still works.

  • Ebony

    I dont know about you guys but i just did the towel thing with an original 360 and an elite, both worked out fine so im gonna have to say what youre saying is BS

    • Harry

      It will work fine for many people, but you’re not listening, it will only work fine for A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME..
      the microwave is the only proven method that is permanent at this stage

  • Harry

    Ebony you’re an idiot, please learn to read.
    Everyone knows the towel trick will work for a few days but its not permanent, the microwave trick is the only permanent solution currently that is very cheap. I hope you burn in hell for writing such rubbish that everyone already knows.

  • martinr22

    you may not believe it but the trick does work. while on holiday my xbox broke so i had no way of getting it to support so i tried it and t worked for 1 month before getting the 3 red lights. its weird.

  • mark

    I got the red lights. microsoft said its a console problem and will replace it for free if its under warrenty. Then when you get it back they give you an additional 90 days. They were very helpful and quick. 18004myxbox

  • bust a Nut on Bill

    LOL, have you tried to stick the white xbox brick in the oven after pre-heating it to 570 fahrengheit for about 10 minutes…i hear it works better than any towel or microwaving the sucker for about 10 minutes… if it makes any strange noises or catches fire, or explodes, you should take it out approximately 1 minute afterwards!

    good luck with your gaming investments!

    • Harry

      You are a moron bill,
      the whole point of the microwave is it TARGETS the mainboard because of the susceptor materials.. an oven will overheat EVERYTHIGN including the plastic..
      READ THE POST YOU MORON
      I suspect you were not only dropped on your head, but repeatedly had it smashed into a solid object…

  • Harry

    bust a Nut on Bill, have you had recent brain cancer or something? If not it sounds like you were just born with an extreme mental problem. If you learnt to read (which I know exceeds your minute mental capacity) you would see that I, along with MANY others have used the microwave trick with great success. This isn’t just something we’ve tried without researching it, as to nobodies such as yourself it doesnt sound right. If you could read through previous posts you would see all the research behind it.
    I hope the admin deletes your ludicrous post, and I hope a stranger shoots you in your ludicrous brain, because you are stupid!
    Here is what was said before:

    Ok guys well i’ve found the answer after much research and a few calls to Microsoft (well alot actually). It appears the underside of the mainboard has heavily incorporated susceptor materials. These are basically lightly metallised plastic film laminated to a supporting paper or paperboard. Microsoft installed these to help prevent static during transport supposedly, but I suspect they may be used mainly to offset the handling practices of the manufacturing plants in Singapore etc. Obviously, apart from preventing static, susceptor materials also have the remarkable ability to attract microwave radiation – and in the 360s case – direct the radiation to the solder tracks. Now, being in the industry it took ALOT of work to uncover these details, but Microsoft still refused to admit point blank that these materials are there to stop the boards being damaged overseas..
    They obviously also do not realise (or will ever admit) that these materials help keep the electromagnetic radiation concentrated to the solder tracks, thus helping fix broken tracks after a short spell in any microwave (around 20-30 secs)..

    PS For those who don’t know what a common use for susceptor materials is – Remember a few years ago various companies started marketing ‘browning paper’ that you wrap foods up in – and it made them crisp on the outside? Thats pretty much what this is (except designed slightly different for a different purpose).

    Anyway we can all relax now we know why the microwave trick works finally!
    *gives self a prize*

  • bust a Nut on Bill

    HARRY, lol you really are stupid! Go stick your cellphone in the microwave for a minute and tell me what happens, better yet just put urself into a microwave and then tell us what happens.

    Do you know what microprocessors are comprised of?
    Do you know the effect that microwave radiation has on these processors, much less anything!

    You really are stupid to think ppl are gullible enough on here to believe that microsoft told you about some of its trade secrets…did you talk to Mr. Gates himself, was he the one who informed you about sticking things in microwaves or did you come up w/ the brilliant idea yourself after standing in front of it for a little too long?
    Harry, you remind me of the chimp that scientists sent out to space to do work real humans are to do, yet wouldn’t bother to give you credit for the things that you did.

  • John

    HARRY, lol you really are stupid! Go stick your cellphone in the microwave for a minute and tell me what happens, better yet just put urself into a microwave and then tell us what happens.

    Do you know what microprocessors are comprised of?
    Do you know the effect that microwave radiation has on these processors, much less anything!

    You really are stupid to think ppl are gullible enough on here to believe that microsoft told you about some of its trade secrets…did you talk to Mr. Gates himself, was he the one who informed you about sticking things in microwaves or did you come up w/ the brilliant idea yourself after standing in front of it for a little too long?
    Harry, you remind me of the chimp that scientists sent out to space to do work real humans are to do, yet wouldn’t bother to give you credit for the things that you did.

    Dear Bust a Nut on Bill – or should I say “NEWBIE WHO OBVIOUSLY WORKS FOR MICROSOFT”
    You calling Harry stupid? ahh I see you’re demonstrating IRONY. What the hell is yor issue buddy? Harry is the one who found out the microwave trick and if it wasnt for him we all would probably be using the towel trick every day. YOU sir are the stupid one, and he is the one with the phds in radiation and electronics. You rely on a phd in STUPIDITY.. hmm who should I trust? Listed buddy if you had been around this thread for long enough you would have read about all the people who the trick has worked for.. OF COURSE IF YOU PUT A CELLPHONE IN THE MICROWAVE IT WILL GET DAMAGED.. Your stupidity really irritates me..
    YOU FOOL IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED + PROVEN THAT THE SUSCEPTOR MATERIALS IN AN XBOX 360 ARE WHAT ATTRACTS AND DIRECTS THE MICROWAVE RADIATION TO THE SOLDER TRACKS… Does a phone have these? NO.
    You suggesting doing that is like saying “if I drop a brick from 50m high it will shatter, so if I drop a feather from 50m high it will also shatter” <– thats how stupid your statement is. The internals have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT properties because of the susceptor materials dumb @ss…

    Im quite sure you dont know what microprocessors are made of based upon your complete and utter ignorance, and that is irrelevant seeing as the radiation is all targeted to the solder tracks AWAY from the microprocessors.. fool. Everything you’re asking about has already been answered above but everyone already knows you’re too stupid to read..

    Another thing is HARRY NEVER SAID IT WAS HIM WHO SPOKE TO MICROSOFT YOU DUMBARSE, ONCE AGAIN PROVING YOU CAN’T READ. He put the text in QUOTES and clearly stated “here is what was said before”. The person who wrote the post IS an industry insider, and YES I know him and NO I dont know Harry.
    You IDIOT they never told him it had anything to do with using the microwave, I honestly think your parents didnt just drop you on your head, they must have smashed you on your head repeatedly based on your skills of interpretation, or should I say – lack thereof.

    Please don’t post here again, there are many people, including myself who have performed the microwave trick and used it with great success. Its blatantly obvious that either you’re either a complete tool who is trying to get people to pay to send their boxs back to microsoft so you get commission, or you’re just somehow exploding with extreme stupidity. Please don’t tell us which is true as no one could really care less. You are a waste of space buddy.

    John

  • Diddyk

    OK I tried the microwave trick. I have a 1200 watt unit so I put it in for 30 seconds. My kids said ” Dad you’re retarded for doing that” Well they were right what a retard I was. after 3 seconds it started to spark and smoke and was on fire. I blew the fire out and found that the board on the front with the power button was fried and the unit wont power on now. THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL ADVICE ON THE $300 PAPER WEIGHT!!!!!

  • Juggalo4Life

    The Towel Trick (TT) actually works…And, my system was not hot at all, in fact, it was quit cool….Plus, I don’t understand why anyone would put a 360 in the microwave in the first place….You must be a “Dumb fuckin’ indiot” to quote ICP to even think about putting your 360 in the microwave

  • Sanjay

    Diddyk what brand do you have? I did mine AND my friends in my panasonic (its only 1000watt) and they both worked. I had to do 2 cycles for johns. Did you try it more than once?
    What you need to remember is if it is not successfull the worst time you have to wait at least 40 mins to try it again. My guess is that you didn’t wait long enough the second time around.
    Juggalo it does work, I think you’re the fing idiot lol. I know im not the only one who has done it either.

  • bust a Nut on Bill

    Diddyk I feel sorry for you and the fact that you actually listened to morons like HARRY JOHN who claim they have Phd’s in Radiation and electronics…HAHAH first of theres no such thing as a phd in radiation and electronics…..well maybe if they got their degrees online in 1/2 an hour.
    Please dont take advice from most of the morons on here who claim they raised their xbox from the dead why sticking it in ovens or microwaves…
    anyways yea, i think you should find where these ppl live and put them in a microwave or take ur fucked up unit and smack it upside their heads….

  • Admin John

    FYI a note to all –
    Please ignore bust a nut on bill/diddyk – he is the same person, same IP address, and interestingly enough – resolves to microsoft.com!!
    He is now banned. The microwave trick IS a credible solution, its just a pity microsoft is trying to muscle their way all over the internet to stop people developing ‘free’ solutions.

  • Don’t let Admin John fool you guys. He’s not the admin here, and he can’t see the IP addresses of any of you posting comments.

    Admin John is also Sanjay, they have the same IP address. I am the owner and only admin at this site. You can tell by the difference in color for my comments.

    I would not suggest doing the microwave trick, it has the potential to do more harm than good.

  • first of all in my name the last 4 letters are silent..
    second, this towel trick is marvelously brilliant!!
    i have been good acquaintances with bill gates,
    AND I CAN MAKE IT RAIN!!!

    -Deuce.

  • Harry

    I dunno bout y’all but microwave trick worked for me!
    ADMIN JOHN FTW
    keep those pesky microsoft twats out of here!

  • ian

    I tried the towel trick and it definletly works but if i turn it off i have to do it again. I did it cause i had nothing to lose if you still have warranty on your xbox then contact microsoft as they will fix it but if you are in my position i suggest trying it.

  • Derek

    the only way to permently fix the xbox 360 is to take it apart, remove all parts take tha hear sinks off and apply artic silver 5 to tha GPU and CPU and then turn your xbox 360 back on for a couple of minutes and let it over heat to remold tha solder under tha motherboard… after that let it sit for maybe half an hour to an hour so it can cool and when it cools it should be reconnected and stay connected… or if you have warrenty just call microshit but hey if you still had tha warrenty your xbox would most likely still work.

  • Diddyk

    what a crack pot saying I am the same person as bust a nut. I put my 360 in the microwave and it sparked and was on fire in less than 5 seconds. If any of you do this you are all tards like I was when I did mine. DO NOT LISTEN AND DO THIS GARBAGE!!!!!

  • Angry Owner

    Anyone claiming that ELITE’s don;t break is stupid, i have an elite that is less than a year old and it has the red ring of death

  • kras

    the ‘towel trick’ has worked for me, but only until i turn it off again. Sometimes it works when i turn it back on but I’ve done it at least 10 or more times now.. Still, its better that forking up $140 dollars. 😉

  • I can’t even begin to tell you how many problems I had with my Xbox 360, I had them so much that by the end of it, I knew everything about them so much so, that I started fixing them part time on the side!

    I even made a nice little blog about the different error codes http://xbox360repairfix.blogspot.com
    and repair techniques you can use to fix them…

    Everyone knows, when your Xbox 360 goes down, its not fun, that’s for sure and the best thing you can do is learn how to fix it yourself. http://xbox360repairfix.blogspot.com

  • Mr Tookie 187

    Sounds like an unlikely fix, but who knows? Well, I know, because I tested lastnight. The “Towel Trick” is bunk, total crap

    Actually it works… 3 months and counting.

  • U-TURN

    Done it twice and still works….

    first time i couldn’t believe it really worked, been playing with a friends xbox for the last 4 days a couple hours ago it returned as it was 3 red lights done the towel trick again and here we go … working again.

    going to buy some t10 and t7 screws and bust this baby open.
    ain’t got nothing to lose ( it’s not mine anyway and the guy already bought him self another one 😀 )

  • TJ Longcoy

    you have to wrap it in like 8 towels and let it sit for like half an hour and THEN it works

  • TJ Longcoy

    and you need to let it cool for at least 10 minutes

  • cam

    i got 3 red lights yesterday and considering iv only had my xbox 360 for 4 and a half months i was pretty pissed, as you can imagine. my brother didnt know what they meant so i explained, my brother was even more pissed than me, he was desperate to play on fifa 09(if you havent got it buy it, its awsome)so he had a frenzy and unplugged the console and plugged it back in, to my suprise it fukin worked lol. i dont know whether that fuks up my console more so please write back

  • Chris (Gamer Tag Labarynth)

    10 mins 1 towel 10 minute cool down and I added a nyko intercooler and it works flawlessly not to say its a great system it just solves the issue of a crappily designed system. I personally was a huge fan of xbox but Im out of warranty so I will call them and let them know that I wont pay 99 to have it repaired I will put it towards a ps3 and rid myself of microsoft products permanantely. They can lose a profit of 80 dollars for service or lose a consumer who will badmouth all microsoft products. (BTW I work retail electronics)

    • XOF

      Not only that, but they will lose customers who keep buying their games!!!!

  • Patrick

    wow, so i got the rings of death and was willing to try the towel thing and it actually did work. hahahahahah. thanks to some idiot who wrapped his xbox in a towel! 😀

  • Chris (Gamer Tag Labarynth)

    to be fair I switched serial numbers on the console and returned the broken one. The 360 is my girlfriends dvd player and occasional game console now. I traded in everything 360 I owned and converted to ps3. Not a regret, and I bet youve never had someone tell you their ps3 is broken and the manufacturer wants 150$ to fix it, nor will they BS you with false failure rate numbers.

  • vess rt

    My xbox has been RROD-ing for over a week, but i could still get it to work by unpluging the cables a few times. today it would not work so after some thought i realized that my chimney is leaking cold air into my xbox (xbox infront of the small vents) and so it became a matter of simple physics. after i used my xbox and it was all hot i would turn it off and now since it is winter out, the cold air would come in and mess up the hot soldering. so i used the towel wrap and it worked, only took like 10 min. and for my temporary fix… I’ve stopped the cold air getting in.

  • Nigger T

    I did the towel trick and my xbox melted into a puddle then i stuck my fingers up my ass and it turned into a ps3 after that i played my ps3 until it got the 3 red cocks of dick so i sent it to microsoft and they said that they dont fix playstation so i took a shit on my dog. FUCK

    • honkey d

      thanks for the advise. it works

  • chewy

    I had the 3 red lights for my elite and did the towel trick and its been working for the last 3 days. just waiting for the red lights to come back so i can send it in to MS.

  • Don

    Does anyone know how to make ur 360 have the 3 red lights? cuz my 360 recently ran out of warranty n im not wastin 100 bucks if i can just get it for free

  • antirae

    does this trick really work??
    because surely this is overheating the system even more!
    the RRoD occurs because of the 360 overheating and making the GPU loose, so causing it to heat up even more is a ridiculous solution!

    however, ive just ben given a 360 from a mate and i think its about to RR because the av cable barely connects, the 360 often comes up with ‘unplayable disc’ error, which is sorted by turning it on and off a few times, but is still a pain in the ass nethertheless,and it cant play a game or DVD for more that 15 mins without it crashing, the sound cuts ou and the game lags just before it dies.

    it hasnt RRd on me yet, but im pretty sure its about to.
    I have a PS3 and I love it! It rules and I agree that the 360 is a pile of shit! Ive never had a problem with any of my Playstations and I think sony rock, microsoft can kiss my ass as I would never spend £300 on something that will probably break in a year. the fatality rate for 360 is 1 in 9… thats mad!

    The new 2009 360s have been fixed though! So if you want a 260 wait til the new ones have been released that are RRoD free 🙂

    Im scared of the RRoD and im reluctant to try any of these bizzare fixes but also as my 360 is free and 2nd hand, I cannot have microsoft send me a free new one. so im buggered else. lol

    any suggestions??

  • Harry

    Antirae – what the?? What makes you think the console is overheating and causing the GPU to become loose? Sounds like you heard snippets of information about causes of the rrod and came up with your own conclusion. The GPU will never actually be loose, the only thing that happens is the solder connections can become dry jointed due to the poor manufacturing process.

    Whilst the towel trick can work, it also places excessive heat stress on ALL components on the mainboard. The most reliable method discussed thus far is the electromagnetic radiation theory. As the xbox has susceptor materials placed under the mainboard (google these if you’re not sure, its similar to the stuff you used to wrap pies around in the microwave to direct the radiation to the pastry, thus making it flaky and crispy instead of soggy) – mainly to prevent static, when the radiation is directed toward your xbox, the susceptor materials will attract virtually all of this radiation and direct it where its needed most – the solder tracks. This in effect remelts the solder and in 99% of cases permanently fixes your xbox.

    So what am I saying exactly? It sounds crazy, but whack your xbox in a microwave for about 20 seconds. You may or may not see some of the white smoke that comes as the solder is being remolten. ***DO NOT place it in the microwave for longer than 30 seconds!

    If after trying this it does not work you MUST WAIT AT LEAST 30 MINUTES before trying again. This is because even though the majority of the radiation has targeted the solder, all components naturally do receive some of the radiation. If you let this build up by not letting them cool down there is a chance some of them may overheat (though alot less likely than using the towel ‘trick’ which has resulted in many dead xboxes over time).

    Any more questions please feel free to ask, if not let us know how it goes for you!

    Cheers,
    Harry

  • Hello

    I have been repairing xbox ps2 for 4 years or so.
    first of all the ball grid array is actually not
    soldered to the matting pads , its compressed in
    order to deform and compress to make the connection
    thermal fatigue will cause this to fail.

    what I do is heat the gpu with a heat gun use
    infrared probe then @575 degrees reinstall rear support bracket
    that has been shimmed to apply greater compression force
    to reestablish full contact ,works every time

    im a little hesitant about putting it in to the
    micro wave even those many have had success with
    there personal units also there is a small Microsoft
    security sticker thin metal foil on acetate that
    I fear could be damaged in a microwave . I can remove them with out
    destroying the warrantee. just some info for the board

    Rob

  • antirae

    well, lets just say i didnt like the sound of the ‘microwave fix’ as everyone knows that putting metal componants in a microwave is a great idea!!! -.-

    No, instead, I took it apart and cleaned EVERYTHING the heat sink was so dusty that must have been what was making it overheat and crash.

    Put it back together and it works perfectly now 🙂

    no need for a blown up microwave!

  • Jillian

    After trying the towel method a few times and failing, my cousin forwarded me a recommendation from howtofixyourxbox.blogspot.com of how to fix it… The guide he recommended worked great for me. It’s been 4 months now and no more problems!! =)

  • A word of Warning 99% of all 3 flashing reds
    are thermal fatigue on the Gpu and cpu, mostly
    the gpu. the towel trick is just that a trick
    you are running the inner metal casing and all
    the parts up to 240> degrees !! all the electrolytic
    capacitors are rated to 180< degrees so if they survive
    you have greatly reduced there life HEAT KILLS
    electronics. now having said that. screw the warrantee
    what you get back from MS is another unit that will
    fail with in 3-6 months there are exceptions .
    take matters in to your own hands get your 10 year old
    son to open it up remove the heat sink clean it then
    throw away that stupid “X” bracket underneath the Gpu
    reapply a little heat sink compound from radio
    shack to the heat sink then screw down the heat sink.
    place the fan over the cpu turn on the box for 20min
    let cool reassemble and 90% of the time its a solid
    fix.

    Rob

  • Andy

    Hey guys, Been repairing 360’s for about year and a half now and never had one go wrong after doing exatly what Rob just said, whatever you do don’t try the towell trick I’ve seen people fry their CPU doing that and unfortunately theres no fix for that.

    On the plus side I’ve never come across a 3 RLOD console that cant be fixed with an x-clamp replacement, so if you want a console that will stay on green lights (or blue in my case) do what rob has mentioned and bolt the heatsinks down, it will keep enough pressure on the chips, unline the flimsy x-clamp.

    Andy

  • Brian M

    My son had the 3 red light problem with his x box,cost £40 to fix,didnt do the job ,i have now reverted to having to aim a fan at the console , works perfect now.

    • Andy

      Thats unfortunate, alot of people tend to replace the Xclamp with the bolts but don’t stress test the console after wand tweak the bolts to the right torque, too much and you will crack the CPU/GPU dye, too little and you get 3 red lights again. if the repair guy did an xclamp replacement that’s possibly just the issue, it requires allot of patience sometimes but it pays off in the end 🙂 I have 3 of my xbox’s repaired that way and not one of them has gone wrong since, can’t comment on repairs I’ve done for other people because I don’t know but no one has come back to me yet with a problem.

  • got a micro wave fix gone bad
    I fix on average about 10 -15 week
    10% dirty laser optics or weak laser, 30% over heating, 50% rrod ,10% fried . I got one last week that got nuked (microwave)
    all light flashing Yellow????? when I open it up
    the metal security sticker had the foil burnt off
    he said he put it in for 15sec 1kw oven. seem the
    towel trick is temporary will reduce the life of
    the unit due to fact you can boil water on the chip
    set when when you suffocate the main board .all capacitors
    will suffer and die. gota ask your self a question
    do you feel lucky ? well do ya?

    ROB

    • Andy

      Definitely not, With my luck it would probably fry the Xbox blow up the microwave then set fire to my house.

      But yeah I heard about the microwave trick before and its even more ridiculous than the towel trick.

      I wonder who comes up with these “Tricks” and “fixes” I’m sure its no one with any real technical knowledge of electronics, in fact, it seems they also lack common sense.

  • Ayling1993

    Lol all i did was un-plug my x-box and waited for about 2 mins plugged it back in and it work lol lucky me!!

  • joa

    I just tried this in a last ditch attempt, and it worked. Guess Microsoft designed it that way.

    • Tucker

      Nah, trust me they didn’t, go ask them they will tell you straight that the towel trick and the microwave trick along with the X-clamp fix will void your warranty.

      X-lamp is permanent anyway, towel trick will shorten the life of the console, if 1000 people tell me the towel trick worked it doesn’t make it any more of a good idea, its still stupidly risky and something you’d never catch anyone with even the slightest knowledge of computing or electronics doing.

      You probably just killed a few years off of your xbox’s already relatively short life.

  • JT

    Trying the towel and it worked!!!!!!!! To anybody that has doubts do it! I have no idea about the laout or parts of the Xbox but if you want your Xbox playing just try it

    • elite owner

      realy i tried for one hour still didnt work. still i had my first elite for crhismas 07 sent it in little over year later got it back pretty quick yay but oh no it hapend anin in 09 im sending it back now hope it backs soon ive tried lots of tricks by the way but they can work and CAN SCREW YOUR SYSTEM UP LOL so just send it back to microsoft an dont wast your time doin the toweltrick or any other and stop hating on microsoft there a great company wouldoult be playin halo without them cant wait til i get mine back wish me luck
      p.s. gta 4 latd expansion rocks

  • ive had the three lights 3 times, all three ive contacted microsoft and theyve repaired (replaced) my console regardless of wether it was out of warranty. the reason for being a little annoyed is that 2 of the times my xbox died it ate the game i was playing first, putting large circular scratches on close to the middle before crashing and showing the three red lights. but my games were never replaced another annoying aspect is that the xbox they gave me was never actually mine, it was visibly another guys who had obviously had the same problem. for the most part im gratefull to microsoft but i wish they would fix the glitch and install a bigger coolin system allready.

  • force7812004

    I don’t know why so many people are looking at thermal fatigue for this problem. I checked Microsoft and contacted support and they told me it was a power supply issue. My X Box had been sitting overnight with the power off and when I turned it on the first time in the day, I had the three red lights. However, before you contact support and they tell you to send in your console, check your connections. My power supply was showing green, leading the support tech to condemn my console, but I unplugged and plugged it back in and it works like a champ.

  • Tom

    I have done the towel trick a couple of times and it worked but recently ive been doing it and it hasnt worked wich kind of annoys me. I have taken it back to Microsoft and its worked for a while
    ( 1 year ) and just last night it fouled up again whilst I was playing C.O.D. 5 I got a reefund for C.O.D. from gamestation but my xbox 360 ran out of warranty and I am sort of giving up hope on the towel trick so is there any other ways i can fix it?

    • Harry

      Yes. Try reading.
      Have a look at one my thousands of other posts….

  • Arron

    Ha! Microwave trick eh? Sounds dafter than WWE wrestling. Put a spoon in the mocrowave for 10 seconds and watch sparks flying off it, put a spoon in for a minute and say goodbye to your microwave.

    I have tried the towel trick and it did work for a short while. Turned the x box off and on again and whoa! 3 red lights again.

    Open it up, remove all the old thermal paste and re-apply. If you’ve still got warranty left then send it back.

    • Harry

      Hi Arron,

      Good to see the uninformed laughing at things they know nothing about. Of course if you put a spoon in the microwave it will spark like crazy!!
      A microwave basically works by emitting electromagnetic radiation particles that are guided onto whatever object is in there via a waveguide.
      Now as most people know certain objects attract these particles more than others. If you put some solids in along with liquids the liquids will heat up much more quickly than the solids.
      If you put in metals with the liquids these will heat up faster as they are more attractive to the radiation.
      The most highly rated attractive objects to the radiation particles are actually called ‘susceptor materials’. If you put some of these in a microwave with virtually any other object you will notice the other object will remain cool to the touch UNLESS it is making direct contact with the susceptor materials.

      Now what is interesting is these susceptor materials also act as an extremely effective anti static device. Due to some quality control issues involved with the manufacturing of the Xbox’s overseas (of course to save $) Microsoft made it mandatory that susceptor materials were manufactured to the underside of each and every Xbox 360 mainboard.

      Why does all this matter and what does it mean?

      Well, one of the main problems with the Xbox’s is due to American law (that after a certain year in the US – ANY device that could be used by children must have lead free solder – which has a higher melting point than ordinary solder.) Unfortunately this carries a higher risk when reflowing the solder used when seating the BGA chips, so Microsoft opted to be safe and reflowed the solder at a high temperature but not for a very long time – which over time can and does lead to dry joints (in the GPU and CPU!)

      The towel trick gets the trick done by making your entire Xbox effectively a reflow oven, which is extremely risky as ALL the components are subject to very high operating temperatures (much higher than they’re rated to), so most likely it will temporarily fix your Xbox and over time it will fail – or it will just fail instantly!

      The reason the Microwave trick is so effective is because you are virtually isolating all of the solder tracks (including the solder used for the BGA chips) from the rest of the components and devices used in the Xbox. This is because the susceptor materials attract almost ALL of the electromagnetic radiation and divert them to the solder tracks!

      Now the reason why it is stated to put the Xboxs in the microwave for a MAX of 30 seconds at a time is mainly a case of ‘better to be safe than sorry’. As each microwave has different power ratings. What is recommended by most people is to put it in for around 20 seconds, let your Xbox cool down for 30mins, turn it on and try it out.. If it fails let it cool down again and repeat the process. This is because no matter how effective the susceptor materials are, there will always be a small amount of stray radiation that will slightly heat up other components, if you dont let them cool down before trying again you run the risk!
      so be PATIENT!
      I can almost guarantee anyone who has had a problem with this method has had issues as a direct result of not following these instructions.

      • Tucker

        Harry,
        I’m not sure why you seem to think this is a smart idea considering how easy it is to fry your 360 by sticking it in a microwave, nice wiki fats there but at the end of the day the fact remains it has bricked hundreds of boxes so far and an Xclamp replacement hasn’t and pretty much can’t brick it.

        • Petesy

          Tucker how do you know its bricked them?
          I know 2 people that have used the microwave to permanently (so far) fix RROD. As long as u do it when it completely cold I dont think its too risky, just dont do it for like 5 mins like the noobs do and it should be ok. I did it for 15seconds on mine and that got it.

          Xclamp sounds good I kno lotsa people have done it but from what I understand a fair few still fail after a while (u can see on ebay the amount of RROD consoles that have had xclamp replacements, notice none mention microwave damage tho?)

          thats just my 2c!

          • Tucker

            Petesy
            Just google it and you’ll see how many its ruined, just because its worked on 2 consoles doesnt mean it works mass scale and lets be honest is ether going to brick your xbox or the microwave.

            The “noobs” you refer to are not noobs at all but people who are following the instructions on so called fixes on the internet, lts face it if 20 seconds in the mocrowave is long enough to reflow your CPU and GPU surely thats long enough for it to reflow the whole board… wait.. thats not a good idea at all is it!?

            As for the xclap I have fixed more than I can keep count of not one has come back to me since and I have 3 of my own the main one I use has been repaired for over 12 months now and i’ve not had a single issue with it.

            Xclamp requires you to be patient and stress test the console as much as possible afterwards before shipping it back to the owner and yeah after 5-6 hours of being turned on some do go RROD again so you tweak the bolta and try again, people who just whack 8 bolta in the console and expect it to work are the ones reporting it not working, people with no patience are the ones saying its a joke.

            Ask anyone who repairs them for a living you ether reball the chips (correctly, not with a microwave but with a reballer) or do the xclamp replacement, or both.

            Towels and microwaves are no way to repair any xbox, ever.

          • Tucker

            Oh and they wont mention microwave damage on ebay because noone will go anywhere near it, they usually just say “I tried to fix this but to no avail..” or some other BS when they know exactly what they have done to it.

          • Harry

            Hi I cant reply to tucker for some reason..
            But I had a look on google and cant find any xboxs the microwave has ruined except people who have put them in for 12 MINUTES lol!

            Reflowing the entire board isn’t really a problem unless its overdone, its just going to melt the solder, then it will cool down and dry again.. If theres any other poor quality solder joints it will only fix them also.

            Xclamp is probably fine for you then, but the microwave is ideal for those who don’t wish to open their xbox, or simply have one under warranty but don’t wanna go for 3-5 weeks without one! If they’re worried about damage they can always start low (around the 10 second mark) then work their way up.

      • Llemur

        Alright, I put the 360 in the microwave, 1 second later it was shooting sparks. Scared I pulled it out after 2 seconds, great reaction timing I know, is it normal for the 360 to shoot off sparks after such a little time in the microwave, and will the little red light ever leave when I plug it in?

        • Donovan

          Mate u must have left it still hot from the towel trick or something… I’ve seen the microwave trick fix 2 xboxs so far. As long as they’re cold when u put them in it will be fine. I did mine for 23seconds my mate was around 15 both worked..

  • Klaus From Germany, Now Living In Australia

    Harry,

    At first I thought it would be nuts putting a Xbox 360 in a Microwave to fix the dreaded RROD. I had my doubts, but I could not believe my eyes, and ears for that matter which I will explain a little later.

    RROD occurs on a daily basis for me. Ive even set my room to an icey 18 degrees just so I can get through a game of Gears Of War 2. This fails and my balls feel like ICE. Not to mention I got a Cold and missed 5 days of work.

    Putting the 360 in the Microwave at first for 20 seconds, letting it rest for 30 minutes failed. Thinking its totally screwed I Microwaved it for 20 seconds on high, then let it cool down for 30 minutes, repeated the process for 10 hours straight as ive got nothing to lose. Behold after the last cooling period I had a Gears Of War 2 Session that lasted 8 straight hours and finally finished the game. I could barely get past 1 previously. Xbox Live works flawlessly also.

    Another thing I noticed is that my drive has quiet’nd down also. Instead of a streaming jet engine I get a nice low pitched whiring sound. FANTASTIC! I can now play my games at low volume at night.

    My next email will be to Microsoft. With this I have no idea why they havent given you a job investigating this issue.

    • Harry

      Thanks Klaus,

      I have a feeling they won’t be listening. A number of users have been posting on this forum that I strongly suspect are affiliated with Microsoft stating things such as ‘the microwave trick doesnt work it will explode your house’ etc. when its been proven time and time again it is the only safe solution that will not void your warranty and only takes 20 seconds!

      • This guy

        Seeing as how there is metal in the xbox, I don’t really trust putting it in a microwave, even if only for twenty seconds. I’ve done the towel trick, and so far, it has been working

  • HOW TO SAVE THE MICROSOFT 360 SEAL for reuse

    take the unit out side or to a
    open ventalated area

    Cut a 1″x 3″ pice of a sponge.
    Soak with lighter fluid. make shur its not dripping

    apply to the sticker hold or tape down for
    20min. Removel of the sticker should be far easyer
    with little to no damage. PS dont for hevans sakes
    stick your 360 in the microwave DUH .I have seen alot
    of youtubs videos of clamp change but non of the
    micro wave “TRICK” hmm i wonder why??

  • WitWolfyZA

    Okay my xbox E74 twice in one month.. I payed $40 to get it fixed by some other guys seeing i was out of my warranty. 2 months later it E74’d again… And i figured what the heck.. Lets fry the bastard.. Did the towel trick for 15 min and watched the incredibles while my xbox was burned it self to its previous status…(10 minutes cool down with a fan blowing directly on the xbox) It worked!

    Now i have to wait and see for how long though…. I so need to get myself a Jasper… Manufacture date : 2006-07-27

  • WitWolfyZA

    Who’se the idiot that brought up this “microwave trick” anyways… THATS THE MOST REDICULOUS THING I EVER HEARD OF ! Still cant stop laughing at that

    • Donovan

      Dude it works if u do it right.. Read Harrys explanation if u want.. I dont understand most of it but my xbox AND my mates both work now.. Just over 12 months for both of us so why laugh?

  • ROB

    MICROSOFT still has not fixed the problem?
    surprise surprise !! They extend the warrantee
    for those Boxes that have not been opened.

    So you Bite the bullet ,and send in your box
    a mouth or so later you get back another box
    and guess what it still has a faulty G.P.U. CLAMP
    and will Fail Again.

    My Advice is find out what the real problem
    is ” a picture is worth 1000 words”

    go to http://www.all-xboxrepair.com and read it. now you know

  • dirtback

    Iv done the towel trick twice now. The first was over a year ago and now i just did it today. Gues wat. It worked. now i don’t know how log it’l last but the last time i did it once again was over a year ago.

  • frustrated

    I have an issue with an xbox 360 I am trying to get to work without any BS. I originally had a no video problem, by that I mean when I started it up it would be blank screen with no RROD and I could hear the audio when I put a movie in. I did the x clamp mod an followed it according to the tutorials online. I was thorough I cleaned the tops of the GPU and CPU to a nice shine and clean off the back of the heatsinks. I had to play around with the amount of washers used but to make a long story short it only works when I have only 1 nylon washer on the top so that the heatsinks are basically right on top of the microprocessors. It will play movies for hours without issue but only plays the game that I have for about 5 minutes or less but if I leave the motherboard and its components open without all the plastic casing on it will play for about a half hour or so if I’m lucky. I’ve tried 2 different dvd drives that I have and both work good but render the same game freezing result. Now heres what I am frustrated about:

    1. Why will it play a movie for hours with no problem and freeze for a game in 5 minutes?

    2. I only have 1 game madden 08 and I guess it has had problems with freezing. Is it just the game?

    3. Is it freezing from overheating? But how can it overheat with all the casing off and it sitting in the open air?

    4. I also tried the heatgun solder re-flow technique and was careful about it but there was no change in game performance. But why the F would someone stick a circuit board in a microwave? Who the F ever thought of that?

    Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated as I’m frustrated and need some advice.

  • xboxkinggg

    this is what i did after i got the RRoD. i first took some maple syrup and poured it on my xbox, stcuk her in the microwave for 45 minutes on high. Then i sat back lit up a blunt of some premium marijuana and watched the sucker BURN!!!

  • Tom

    Can someone tell me if doing the repair and getting rid of the x mount does always work?

    • mellorj4744

      no sometimes but most times no

  • Tom

    If the x bracket mod does work, why not do the mod then you won’t have to do the towell trick and/or microwave trick

  • Mr LOL

    I was about to do this microwave/towel trick but since i’ve read the posts here, its clearly obvious who is right and wrong. The microwave/towel trick sounds so stupid, i can’t believe i was about to attempt it.

  • Harry

    Wanker “One thing that worked for my friend is using an ice pack. After the Xbox got the lights we unplugged it immediately and put an ice pack on it while fanning it. It worked perfectly when we plugged it back in 15 minutes later. It’s been about a month since then I believe and it still works”
    As has been said numerous f*CKING TIMES IT ONLY WORKS FOR A WHILE THEN FAILS> LEARN TO READ U F*CKING TWAT

    MICROWAVE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS BUT U DONT NEED IT NOW AS MICROSOFT EXTENDED THEIR WARRANTY YOU IDIOT

  • Harry

    Ok it appears there’s been a few people who don’t understand what the microwave trick actually does because they havn’t learnt to READ (try going to school sometimes u fools).
    Anyway OF COURSE if you put a metal spoon etc in the microwave by itself it will spark like crazy, thats because the electromagnetic radiation will be attracted to it, but what happens if you put a susceptor material in with it (google it you idiots)? All the radiation will target that INSTEAD of the spoon and you wont get a SINGLE spark.. Guess what the xbox has under the mainboard surrounding all the solder tracks? THATS RIGHT – SUSCEPTOR MATERIALS..
    Anyway here is a previous post to the tools that dont know how to scroll-

    Hi Arron,

    Good to see the uninformed laughing at things they know nothing about. Of course if you put a spoon in the microwave it will spark like crazy!!
    A microwave basically works by emitting electromagnetic radiation particles that are guided onto whatever object is in there via a waveguide.
    Now as most people know certain objects attract these particles more than others. If you put some solids in along with liquids the liquids will heat up much more quickly than the solids.
    If you put in metals with the liquids these will heat up faster as they are more attractive to the radiation.
    The most highly rated attractive objects to the radiation particles are actually called ’susceptor materials’. If you put some of these in a microwave with virtually any other object you will notice the other object will remain cool to the touch UNLESS it is making direct contact with the susceptor materials.

    Now what is interesting is these susceptor materials also act as an extremely effective anti static device. Due to some quality control issues involved with the manufacturing of the Xbox’s overseas (of course to save $) Microsoft made it mandatory that susceptor materials were manufactured to the underside of each and every Xbox 360 mainboard.

    Why does all this matter and what does it mean?

    Well, one of the main problems with the Xbox’s is due to American law (that after a certain year in the US – ANY device that could be used by children must have lead free solder – which has a higher melting point than ordinary solder.) Unfortunately this carries a higher risk when reflowing the solder used when seating the BGA chips, so Microsoft opted to be safe and reflowed the solder at a high temperature but not for a very long time – which over time can and does lead to dry joints (in the GPU and CPU!)

    The towel trick gets the trick done by making your entire Xbox effectively a reflow oven, which is extremely risky as ALL the components are subject to very high operating temperatures (much higher than they’re rated to), so most likely it will temporarily fix your Xbox and over time it will fail – or it will just fail instantly!

    The reason the Microwave trick is so effective is because you are virtually isolating all of the solder tracks (including the solder used for the BGA chips) from the rest of the components and devices used in the Xbox. This is because the susceptor materials attract almost ALL of the electromagnetic radiation and divert them to the solder tracks!

    Now the reason why it is stated to put the Xboxs in the microwave for a MAX of 30 seconds at a time is mainly a case of ‘better to be safe than sorry’. As each microwave has different power ratings. What is recommended by most people is to put it in for around 20 seconds, let your Xbox cool down for 30mins, turn it on and try it out.. If it fails let it cool down again and repeat the process. This is because no matter how effective the susceptor materials are, there will always be a small amount of stray radiation that will slightly heat up other components, if you dont let them cool down before trying again you run the risk!
    so be PATIENT!
    I can almost guarantee anyone who has had a problem with this method has had issues as a direct result of not following these instructions.

    • Bob

      LoL just reading some of these things and had to tell you if your going to tell people they cant read and then try and sound intelligent yourself, get the facts right first. Something here you said and I quote, “a microwave basically works by emitting electromagnetic radiation particals that are guided onto whatever object is in there via a waveguide,” and talking about a spoon sparking. YOU clearly have no idea what you are talking about! Microwaves DO NOT produce radiation or the entire world would have major health problems from standing near it while cooking food! Through the use of an electromagnet RADIO waves are produced… nothing else. A high intensity of radio waves cause water molecules in substances to vibrate faster and faster causing friction which causes heat. A spoon sparks because the metal alloys within begin to vibrate creating sparks, much like dragging a chain on the ground behind a vehical at about 40mph.
      Anyways back to the XBOX part of all this, the reason the radio trick may be plausible is due to the solder which is all over the circuit board has a low melting point which absorbs the radio waves fairly quickly causing them to soften and become reseated where they were supposed to be correcting the 3 red light error.
      They error more often than not is from people playing their systems for to long causing the boards to get hot enough over time loosening up the solder which in turn becomes unset and circuit connectivity becomes disrupted.
      Though this may work, I do not recommend it. Just be an adult and send it in and have some patients. Microsoft will fix the problem free of charge. And again, it could work, then again you could completly destroy your system. So tell me is a 15-30 sec bet on a $300-$400 system realy worth it. Id say send it in to be fixed and spend the 4 weeks you wait outside for once being among other people. If your playing your system that much that it overheats and causes errors… get a girlfriend, or boyfriend whatever your preference. Go get laid. Enjoy life!

  • Dominique

    Hey all I can confirm what Harry said IS true – I was worried about trying the microwave trick but if u dont believe it – google it for yourselves – what a susceptor material is, what a bga chip is, the laws on lead free solder etc its all true..

    I ended up going for it – first time it didn’t work but after letting it cool down for 30mins and trying again my xbox is fully functional and has been for 18months now – just thought i’d update everyone for all those who don’t believe it!!

    • Alan Hombos

      I second that Dom,
      2 years actually for me if you do it right and dont overdo it microwave trick is perfect

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  • ViNnY DeNaRdO

    Hey john! ya fuck off m. u can suck on my nine inch cock if ur going to talk to bill like that you fucking miget. y don’t you go suck harry potters nuts you fucking homo! by the way, why are u talking like ur some kind of genius, seriously if ur on the douche that sticks xboxs in a microwave side ur pretty much the biggest retard i know. y don’t u and harry butt hole go fuck each other, probably the only action u xbox cookers will ever get! i was on ur guys side but after u talk to bill like that, u guys changed EVERYTHING, wow u know how to read congratulations dick breathe. i FUCKING hate ass clowns like u 2 who think there miracle workers cause they cook xboxs or rap them in towels.

    This one is to harry cock breath! u need to learn how to read u stupid com guzzler. is that all u ever do is tell ppl to learn how to read! jesus man if ppl arn’t on ur side y do u care? its peoples opinions doesn’t mean they dont know how to read, whos ur little but buddy john? sounds like he’s a douche bag genius, hes probably a newbie that works for microsoft. he sounds like he gets in your pants every night and plays atri with ur joystick!

    tried the towel trick 6 times and kept getting the rings. i’m so pissed!!!! I actually thought is was going to work. how fucking dumb am I! rap a towel around my xbox for 10 minutes, what is that really doing to get it to work?

    by the way, took my xbox apart turned it into 2 rings (don’t know how) but then fixed it from there. so FUCK the towel trick, microwave trick is the dumbest thing i’ve ever herd of! I’m 100% on bust a nut on bill’s side. why don’t u stick ur self in a microwave because it looks like u need to be fixed, SPACE CHIMP! lol. what other brilliant ideas are u going to think of now, jamming it into the toilet and shitting on it? what’s the difference? who else is on bust a nut on bill an my side?

  • ViNnY DeNaRdO

    sorry, got outta hand there

  • ViNnY DeNaRdO

    talk to me!

    • Harry

      Vinny,

      Why don’t you post your real name?
      Can you tell me exactly how long you put your xbox 360 in the microwave for? I can guarantee it works on almost all xboxs if you do it right.. You can NOT do it for too long.. Mate did you even read the post? If you don’t believe it just google any part of it, I know its hard for some people to believe that there are people actually smarter than them… But it’s true believe it or not.. Go on, google susceptor materials..

      Can’t wait to read your apology when you realise I Was right all the way along.. Why dont you scroll down and read all the other shitloads of people who have got microwave trick to work without a problem…?

      I say learn to read simply because I have proof of why everything works.. YOu on the other hand assume everything, and everone knows you shouldn’t even attempt the towel trick more than once. It’s a great recipe for disaster.. Now who is the moron?

      Harry

  • 808-MAN

    i can believe this will work, the towel trick works so why cant excessive short burst of heat? ask yourself that? what have you got to lose? 40 quid for a 2nd hand 360 thats it. good luck to you harry, i believe you and im one of the biggest sceptics of everything.

    • 808-MAN

      the towel trick DOES work, i tried it and im still playing red dead redemption now 3 weeks later with no green lines acrosss the screen etc. and what a game it is i must say. grand theft auto cowboy style.

      • ttyp

        Did you have to stop playing for a certain amount of time so that it doesnt overheat again or were you able to keep it running for longer?

      • a.gat

        hey man, same EXACT problem and game. got rdr love it, been playin nothin else since i got it. got the 3 red lights 2 nite. i saw the towel trick but it seemed sketch, but just to make sure, u did it, and it worked great?

        • Ginny

          AWESOME! Towel trick I used for 6 months until I thought my xbox was completely dead, RROD!! Tried the microwave trick ONCE and it’s now been just over another year the Xbox is still going strong!!

          Thanks for all your research into susceptor materials etc Harry!

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  • Alan Hombos (Lidcombe)

    I would just like to say Harry is a superstar..
    My XBOX is going great since the microwave trick.

  • Jon Josephine

    If anyone needs help with the microwave trick let me know

    • Ninja PL

      oh hahaha id like to see the vid response on that !

  • tried the towel in the freezer trick

    put the xbox in freezer for hour.. just temporary fix.. fuck the world

  • C.J.

    Honestly i am tempted to try it im 17 and living at home and my mom is worried the metal in the 360 will KILL the microwave i REALLY dont see how this will fix it i’ve been searching for a way to fix my 360 without having to pay money out my ass to do so.. and i cant stress enough at how much i miss playing my 360 can some one please help

    • Harry

      Hi C.J.
      This has all been posted before but here is a quick rundown of how it all works and why it will NOT kill your microwave.. Just be mindful, do NOT put the xbox in ur microwave for MORE THAN 30 SECONDS AT A TIME!!

      Anyway OF COURSE if you put a metal spoon etc in the microwave by itself it will spark like crazy, thats because the electromagnetic radiation will be attracted to it, but what happens if you put a susceptor material in with it (google it you idiots)? All the radiation will target that INSTEAD of the spoon and you wont get a SINGLE spark.. Guess what the xbox has under the mainboard surrounding all the solder tracks? THATS RIGHT – SUSCEPTOR MATERIALS..
      Anyway here is a previous post to the tools that dont know how to scroll-

      Hi Arron,

      Good to see the uninformed laughing at things they know nothing about. Of course if you put a spoon in the microwave it will spark like crazy!!
      A microwave basically works by emitting electromagnetic radiation particles that are guided onto whatever object is in there via a waveguide.
      Now as most people know certain objects attract these particles more than others. If you put some solids in along with liquids the liquids will heat up much more quickly than the solids.
      If you put in metals with the liquids these will heat up faster as they are more attractive to the radiation.
      The most highly rated attractive objects to the radiation particles are actually called ’susceptor materials’. If you put some of these in a microwave with virtually any other object you will notice the other object will remain cool to the touch UNLESS it is making direct contact with the susceptor materials.

      Now what is interesting is these susceptor materials also act as an extremely effective anti static device. Due to some quality control issues involved with the manufacturing of the Xbox’s overseas (of course to save $) Microsoft made it mandatory that susceptor materials were manufactured to the underside of each and every Xbox 360 mainboard.

      Why does all this matter and what does it mean?

      Well, one of the main problems with the Xbox’s is due to American law (that after a certain year in the US – ANY device that could be used by children must have lead free solder – which has a higher melting point than ordinary solder.) Unfortunately this carries a higher risk when reflowing the solder used when seating the BGA chips, so Microsoft opted to be safe and reflowed the solder at a high temperature but not for a very long time – which over time can and does lead to dry joints (in the GPU and CPU!)

      The towel trick gets the trick done by making your entire Xbox effectively a reflow oven, which is extremely risky as ALL the components are subject to very high operating temperatures (much higher than they’re rated to), so most likely it will temporarily fix your Xbox and over time it will fail – or it will just fail instantly!

      The reason the Microwave trick is so effective is because you are virtually isolating all of the solder tracks (including the solder used for the BGA chips) from the rest of the components and devices used in the Xbox. This is because the susceptor materials attract almost ALL of the electromagnetic radiation and divert them to the solder tracks!

      Now the reason why it is stated to put the Xboxs in the microwave for a MAX of 30 seconds at a time is mainly a case of ‘better to be safe than sorry’. As each microwave has different power ratings. What is recommended by most people is to put it in for around 20 seconds, let your Xbox cool down for 30mins, turn it on and try it out.. If it fails let it cool down again and repeat the process. This is because no matter how effective the susceptor materials are, there will always be a small amount of stray radiation that will slightly heat up other components, if you dont let them cool down before trying again you run the risk!
      so be PATIENT!
      I can almost guarantee anyone who has had a problem with this method has had issues as a direct result of not following these instructions.

  • great points altogether, you just gained a new reader. What would you recommend in regards to your post that you made some days ago? Any positive?

  • john

    i put my 360 in microwave and now it won’t power on

  • Lc thug

    harry u fuckin cock i followed your instructions and i put in in for 15 seconds let it cool down for 30 mins and now it wont power on you fuckin dikhead your lucky your hiding behing your pc or id knock you the fuck out u pussy

    • Why would you find it a good idea to microwave your electronic devices because some anonymous person on the internet says you should?

    • Harry

      Lc thug – just saw this now. Cool up with the language a second there champ!!! Theres a few things that can go wrong as i’ve stated NUMEROUS times before if you bothered to READ. Firstly – you MUST allow the xbox to be completely cool BEFORE inserting into the microwave (ie if you have tried the towel trick or have been using the xbox it needs to be at room temperature before trying this).
      Secondly – IF you have tried the microwave trick once, wait AT LEAST 30 mins before trying again..
      Finally – If you have only tried it once you may have only done a partial reflow which would result in the symptoms you’re experiencing. I would suggest giving it one-two more attempts before giving up.

      HOpe this helps
      *waits for apology!*

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  • Harry


    Tyler:

    Why would you find it a good idea to microwave your electronic devices because some anonymous person on the internet says you should?

    Go away troll… YOu haven’t added anything constructive to this thread in ANY posts you’ve added. If you are going to research and say something useful then go ahead. If you want to talk about something you know NOTHING about then perhaps you should become a politician.. but seriously GTFO of this thread

    • No troll here. I’m just trying to keep people from destroying their hardware.

      Probably shouldn’t tell me to “GTFO of this thread” either. This is my website after all.

      If you cannot play nice, you will be banned.

  • Rob

    Hello to all concerned with this unorthodox repair method

    If you are desperate enough to place your game console in your
    microwave oven then . maybe you should consider the following

    1 95% of all hardware failures are caused by very slight board
    warpage right under the G.P.U. where heat build up
    occurs . this will literally cause the Chips connections to pull
    away form the board

    2 a standered refolw @ 255c will almost always get your console
    working.

    3 specific Microwaves frequency acts on water molecules causing
    them to resonate ( absorb the energy) and then release it as heat

    4 you have a better chance of repairing using a heat gun or
    removing the xclamp and replacing it with screws and then
    force the G.P.U. only to over heat ( standered x clamp mod )

    5 Microwaves will cause metal objects to build up charges
    normally at or on sharp edges until it discharges causing sparks
    kina cool looking , try a Christmas ornaments ,

    6If you decide to stick you game console in your mw oven the ods are not in your
    favor and after the attempt fails your chances of a correct repair
    procedure are lost .

    7 just use some common sense and realize if this had a high successes rate
    every one would be doing it . in fact people would be modified
    micro wave oven for that purpose only and they would be fixing consoles
    In volumes .

    Well those are my thoughts .

    use your better judgment , gain vs lose

    Rob

    • Rob, thank you for the well thought out, logical examples.

      I am going to update this post to bring more attention to the points you provided. Hopefully it will encourage people to use at least a bit of critical thinking skills.

      • Rob

        If your open to suggestions
        let’s focus on the problem and a safe but effective
        solutions , given most people don’t have a reflow workstation
        And may have little if no experience .So at a reasonable cost.
        This remedy may be a viable option relative to the alternate method .

        If you must ( I don’t approve ) go ahead and replace the
        X clamp with screws and washers and force the console
        to over heat . This is a semi fix and will most likely
        get their console working . But when it fail again ,It’s
        DONE!

        What is really need and available is new hardware
        to replace the ” X ” clamp ( GPU Bracket)
        This part is available and it only require’s the
        user to remove the G.P.U.’s Xclamp and install
        the replacement. then over heat the GPU only
        and that should correct most red light errors.
        I’ll follow up is there’s any interest

        Rob

        • Please do follow-up Rob. There are a fair number of people subscribed to comments on this post who are probably interested.

          And if they aren’t, I am. 🙂

  • Robert Tongedahl

    You guys are idiots. Every system is different. One thing may work on one and not another. Assembly is always slightly different. CPU and GPU handle different compared to the next one. And second the towel trick does work. I just did it on mine. Had red ring. Wouldn’t go to 2 but i turned it off let it sit about 10 min and works just fine. People assume because they have done or tried something on something it makes them an expert. If you were an expert you would be taking over Steve Jobs position at Apple. Or working at Microsoft. Or at least a second hand PC store.

  • FoolishMrT

    hmm, seems to be like 2/3 people campaigning in favour of the “microwave trick”. yeah, the trick being stupid retards frying the life out their xbox while you ring piece’s are laughing your asses off at them! my bet is you are ps3 fan(ny)boys who take delight in hoodwinking spastics into permanently frying their electrics, animals!

  • ash

    I fitted a processor clamp upgrade kit which didnt fix my e74 error. I then stopped the fans thus overheating the xbox 360 and it’s worked ever since. No doubt a towel would have done the trick 😉

  • William Edmonds

    Just tried the microwave trick and it actually worked lmfao! Friends didn’t believe me until i showed them the video. You are the king Harry!